MotoGP » 'Long list' of work needed at Honda

“We developed this whole bike around the old tyre and one third of the way through the season they've put a new tyre into it” - Casey Stoner.

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fled - Unregistered

June 18, 2012 7:30 AM

To add to what Robero was saying, Yami definately has their **** dialed ALL the way in, and that machine is currently on kill mode. Its the bike to have in 2012 with this bull**** new tire.

If you say that you cant see how squirey #1's repsol is coming out the corner exits, you are not being intellectually honest or being a good sportsman. Honda will either fix it, or this year will be super boring, just like last season, but instead it i will be lorenzo with 1/4 lap lead on everyone....unless it rains and the Ducati's get to play at the front.

TC - Unregistered

June 18, 2012 8:50 AM


The tyres were changed for safety reasons in that the old ones took too long to warm up and had to be pushed to hard in the first couple of laps to get up to temperature causing crashes in the pack off the start which was dangerous.

It has been common knowledge that the new tyres are going to be introduced so it is up to the teams to adjust. Following your logic if Bridgestone had made tyres that could not cope with the new bikes, remember Yanagawa's blowout on the Kawasaki for instance, then the tyre could not be changed mid season because the bikes had already been developed, plainly stupid.

And as to Bridgestone making different tyres available it is not in their interest in a one make series for financial reasons so wont happen.


June 18, 2012 8:55 AM

3 out of the top 4 finishers were Hondas, so they weren't struggling too much. The winner was perhaps not so much a Yamaha as a Lorenzo.

Some time ago Casey said that MotoGP was in trouble because the rules are constantly being changed and some stability needs to be maintained. This was before he retired so no wonder he is somewhat despondant.

As for the tyres, everyone is setting their fastest laps on the 2nd,3rd, or 4th lap and then degradation sets in. Something is wrong here, and if they have to bring out different tyres for different tracks this won't be benefitting road bikes in the future. As for asymetric tyres?? words fail me.

the untold story - Unregistered

June 18, 2012 9:41 AM

The rookie rule is to be dropped for the 2013 season. The "Spanish daily El Pais" is reporting that Dorna and IRTA have decided that the rule preventing MotoGP rookies from being signed to a factory team had to be scrapped due to the difficulties presented by the limited number of bikes available to ride. As a consequence, it was felt it was better to drop the rookie rule altogether, rather than create more problems for existing satellite teams by maintaining it.

The rule had outlived its usefulness, explained IRTA secretary Mike Trimby. “The situation has changed. There are far fewer opportunities for rookies now than there were when the Rookie Rule was introduced.” In 2010, the first year of its introduction, there were three satellite Ducati seats, two satellite Yamaha seats and four satellite Honda seats available.

Looks like Pedrosa was expendable or maybe Stoner's getting the force out like they did to Rossi, the golden boy Marquez is being moved directly into the factory team

Farce - Unregistered

June 18, 2012 9:45 AM

"The rookie rule is to be dropped for the 2013 season."

Indeed, a Mr J Ryder predicted elsewhere that Honda would get this concession in return for agreeing to a rev limit for 2013.

Expect the other part of the deal to become known soon also.


June 18, 2012 10:26 AM
Last Edited 1108 days ago


"Are you doNE spinning me that bull5hit story Mr Bridgestone guy.,..?"

@ fastfisheye

IT'S NOT ONLY CASEY COMPLAINING . Dani (Spanish) is also unhappy with it.But I, like the rest, find it HIGHLY suspect that they refuse to give the older tyre as an option AFTER Repsol Honda Team VERY PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED THEIR DISSATISFACTION WITH THE NEW TYRE! Fishy I think...


June 18, 2012 10:34 AM

keep the insults to yourself Nick636 we are just having a discussion, you can keep believing your conspiracy theories but satellite Honda teams seem to be doing just fine.

Tyres are the same for everyone so HRC should concentrate the effort on finding solutions to their problem before Lorenzo is too far ahead to catch.


June 18, 2012 10:47 AM
Last Edited 1108 days ago

there was not a single complaint about the front tire that was just replaced.
your thinking of last years tires not the 2012 specs.
there has hardly been a front end crash this year up until this week with the new front tire introduction where there was quite a few.
the new introduced spec is bridgstones latest model and a few were given out earlier in the season to see what they were like , most riders liked them so they have become the new spec front of the series.
there must still be thousands of the now defunct tires laying in stock so there was no reason to not leave them as an option , especially when not everyone liked the new spec.

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