MotoGP » Bautista: It won’t happen again, but penalty 'excessive'


“I think it is an excessive penalty for a racing incident and whilst I accept it I do so reluctantly” – Alvaro Bautista.

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Dario - Unregistered

July 03, 2012 1:34 PM

And 5 meters in a sport where they take the same line within inches, lap after lap, is a HUUUGE amount of tarmac. They have a racing licenses system specifically so that silly stuff like this is weeded out by rejecting unqualified people in the first place.

skally - Unregistered

July 03, 2012 1:43 PM

So he only missed his braking point by a mere 5 metres and wasnt going too fast and locked the front wheel whilst riding on the kerb before he got to the corner, I always thought missing your braking point meant you arriving far too fast but if this is not true I bow to your superior Knowledge

shamarone

July 03, 2012 1:55 PM

re: "Except that he *has* made a mistake like this in the past and wasn't penalized (Valencia last year). So I don't think anyone is after him."

that's what i'm screamin'. he already used up his one free pass last year. this time you gotta take one for the team kid. same as with simo, the life we save may be your own.

InSpeedWeTrust

July 03, 2012 2:17 PM

What a load of crappy comments. Who said on this thread that missing that much your braking point isn't a big mistake ? It's a big one.

The problem here is the inconsistency of the motogp race direction.
Simoncelli, may him rest in peace, has made several bonehead moves last year, including dumbly taking out a championship contender in the 2nd corner of last year's Assen gp. It was a big and stupid mistake too.

Marquez has already more dumb moves in 2 years than Alvaro Bautista in his 10 years GP career.

Were they both suspended for being reckless so many times ??? NO.

And for Valencia 2011, AB can't be held accountable seeing Dovizioso changed direction just in front of him at the last second.

Anonymity on internet is so pernicious. It's way too easy to point the finger at someone than in real life. 90% of the comments here can't be taken seriously.

Bautista's made a big mistake, no one will disagree but that was nothing but a racing incident.

Ozymandias - Unregistered

July 03, 2012 2:56 PM

@InSpeedWeTrust

You said, "Anonymity on internet is so pernicious. It's way too easy to point the finger at someone than in real life. 90% of the comments here can't be taken seriously."

This IS exactly THE issue !! And the descriptive word "pernicious" is most excellent. Forum after forum becomes infected after time and then the corrosion quickly sets in with name calling, belligerence and self-absorption. A sad state of affairs. :-(

mrfill

July 03, 2012 2:56 PM

Where did this '5 metres' fact come from? Rossi and Crutchlow both said he was accelerating and changing up when they were braking. At 120kph (abt 72mph) it takes 0.15 seconds to cover 5 metres which is about time for 1 gear change. Videos suggest he was at least half a second late so more like 20 metres - although the speed before braking at that corner is rather more than 120kph so the distance is correspondingly greater.

InSpeedWeTrust

July 03, 2012 3:15 PM

Missing his breaking by 20 meters would almost mean he would've hit the apex of the corner before starting to brake.

Watch the video again, in no way Bautista's braking half a second later than Crutchlow, this is madness.

5 meters is huge enough for a missed braking point already, that could 7 or 8 meters... But 20 meters is completely unreal.

InSpeedWeTrust

July 03, 2012 3:24 PM

It was Dovizioso beside Bautista, not Crutchlow.

To those who can watch the replay on MGP.com it's obvious. AB's braking almost at the same time as Dovi, it's very close. The main problem, like Wilco said, is that AB was too much in the inside of the track to make the turn.

Moreover he had a decent start from the 3rd line, so he was carrying more speed than the riders in front of him. That's a factor that shouldn't be underestimated as well.





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