MotoGP » Bautista: It won’t happen again, but penalty 'excessive'


“I think it is an excessive penalty for a racing incident and whilst I accept it I do so reluctantly” – Alvaro Bautista.

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Harryx - Unregistered

July 03, 2012 8:32 PM

Sure Alvaro. Call your incident in the DRY on the 1st corner a "racing incident" where you win or bin the race...that sounds better.

Stop moaning about your penalty. World championships have been decided over one single point and there was some real hard work in it from Lorenzo...

Harryx - Unregistered

July 03, 2012 8:37 PM

There is some difference in a DRY 1st Corner win-it or bin-it move or a slide out of a wet race where you're riding in the middle of a race...no comparison.

JBuono - Unregistered

July 03, 2012 8:40 PM

Speaking of consistency with the penalties it comes down to who it involves, how it happened and if anyone was hurt and some potential favoritism added in. On that note look at How Johny Rea got no penalty at all for ramming Haslam and in turn Taking down Melandri a couple SBK races ago in a last turn sabotage for the win. He should be proud of that one. With all this rule changing BS in the case of the Rookie rule and inconsistency FIM should look at appointing some new officials.

Tom - Unregistered

July 03, 2012 8:49 PM

@AEOLUS, DK is talking about Valencia 2011 not Assen 2012...

Whatever the wording from the riders, it was a massive unfortunate state of events. Lorenzo said it best. Over and done with now, we haven't ended up 25 points behind Casey. We just start over again now. Or words to them effects...

samberdino - Unregistered

July 03, 2012 9:35 PM

“It is the first time this has happened to me and I was sorry that another rider was also involved..."

Bautista is lying! He did the same mistake in Valencia last year and took out 3 riders in the 1st corner (Rossi, de Puniet, Hayden). In that accident someone got injured - broken wrist for Hayden.

Obvously he didnt learn then. He even forgot! His penalty is not big enough.

bikenut

July 03, 2012 10:34 PM
Last Edited 809 days ago

"There is some difference in a DRY 1st Corner win-it or bin-it move or a slide out of a wet race where you're riding in the middle of a race...no comparison."

Yes and you should have added where one rider is very experienced and the other not...

but I am not sure which is the more excusable?
In the end they were both just racing incidents and Bautista is an excellent rider and he is trying hard for results, its just a matter of time before he finishes on the podium or takes a win and I think this is a real setback
There is another rider I would like to see penalised for not trying....

CRT - Unregistered

July 04, 2012 4:05 AM

The only problem I have with the penalty is the lack of precedence. How any times have we seen riders make errors resulting in others being taken out without recourse? Those examples are plenty in this thread.

Harryx - Unregistered

July 04, 2012 5:31 AM

There is some difference in a DRY 1st Corner win-it or bin-it move or a slide out of a WET race where you're riding in the middle of a race...no comparison. The most of the time these are racing incidents.

But you can't bin people blindly riding completely out of control into a group of riders on the 1st corner. it wasn't even wet. Of course he did not do it on purpose but it was utterly blunt.

The Rossi/Stoner incident was also provoked by the circumstances where Stoner was slightly slower at that point and Rossi explained that he could have binned it adapting to the situation either way. He made a stupid mistake under racing conditions in the wet..


If you cannot see any context difference here you might be a dangerous rider yourself...?

dacron

July 04, 2012 6:04 AM

i think people should not be so hard on him.
all riders exept stoner and lorenzo are in a panicked state of sorts due to all the contracts that are up for grabs and all are riding on the limit and trying a few crazy things they normally wouldn't do.
think about it for a minute!
satellite riders are going for pole and getting or just missing podiums on a frequent basis like we have never seen.
its because they need to impress or be left out.
i for one mentioned this to some respectable people in the paddock that would happen as soon as stoner mentioned retirement .
and straight away it started to happen.
pressure and expectancy is a 50/50 to either go good or be a disaster.

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