MotoGP » Frustration as Spies loses out to Dovi again

Ben Spies notches up another fourth place result in Germany, but finishes behind Andrea Dovizioso again.

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July 08, 2012 9:14 PM

@ Ben1

Results come first followed by marketability. So if Dovi was banging in wins and regularly taking major points from the Repsol boys, it would be a no-brainer that he would get the factory seat.

But at the moment, while his results have admittedly been better than Spies', they haven't been so spectacularly better as to outweigh the marketing advantages of having a US rider on the squad. For Yamaha to give Spies up, they would need to see 'alien' potential in another candidate. Either that or sign a rider with global marketability like Rossi.

The reality is that Dovi beating Spies by 1 place in successive races won't quite be enough to convince Yamaha he is the better man for them.

paul joiner

July 08, 2012 9:27 PM

Uncle Sam and Don R are speaking the absolute truth. I know a lot of people want to see Spies do better as we all know he has the potential and for whatever reason he is under performing but as Uncle Sam and Don R stated This series survives via marketing and sponsorship. Some on here don't want to admit it but the old adage "win on Sunday sell on Monday" still applies even if the riders popularity alone and not race wins is the indicator. Look at the Ducati situation. Rossi nor Nicky are challenging for race wins and yet Ducati are as popular as ever thanks to marketing dollars in the American market.The bottom line is money talk, bull**** walks.


July 08, 2012 9:28 PM

@ Don-R

You are right, but don't forget Dovi rides a satellite Yamaha, which must be inferior to the factory one. At the start of the year I heard they use some part of the 800cc machine, I don't know how much is that true or how much changed.
A satellite rider (without a factory bike like Marco), is never able to challenge for the wins. A podium is a big thing for him, and Dovi is the only satellite rider who had been on the podium yet.
You talk about marketing advantages, which I think never should be a factor more important than results. A lot of people critise there are loads of Spanish riders, but they all have the results, which Spies don't have this year.


July 08, 2012 9:28 PM

You are quite correct,i am not the Yamaha team manager.But can i ask you to hypothesise for a moment and put yourself in the managers shoes.You have one bike spare and have 2 possible riders.Ben and Dovi.Who would you choose and why?
I would choose Dovi.We have had 8 races this year and Dovi has podiumed on 3.Ben has podiumed on none.To me,the ride should go to the guy most likely to get the bike on the podium.And like it or not,thats Dovi.


July 08, 2012 9:32 PM

re: "Because i will never forget him on one Yamaha r1 just amyzing hoe he beat Haga on Ducati."

new bike, new tires, new circuits ='d 11 pole positions and a championship. proof that support is everything.

paul joiner

July 08, 2012 9:33 PM

And another thing people. Please stop trying to qualify your statements by saying Yamaha should sack Ben for Dovi and then turning around to say youre a fan of Ben Spies. That in itself shows that you are not. For if so then you have no true loyalty but to which way the wind blows


July 08, 2012 9:34 PM

@ paul joiner

Then why don't every manufacturer want to sign old Valentino? He still looks like the most popular rider, he takes the biggest payment for sh... results, and he surely wouldn't be slower than Spies. I think he has a bigger marketing ability than Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Marquez, and lastly, Stoner.

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