MotoGP » Frustration as Spies loses out to Dovi again


Ben Spies notches up another fourth place result in Germany, but finishes behind Andrea Dovizioso again.

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Respect - Unregistered

July 09, 2012 9:12 AM

@35

It matters not what you think of Spies. Yamaha, and only the wisdom of Yamaha, will decide their fate. And you will see soon enough, that they will choose Ben yet again. Because the cream always rises to the top. Talk about a "Passport Rider", Crutchlow, and his WSS Championship, give me a break...DORNA must really be desperate for a brit...LMAO

Don-R

July 09, 2012 9:19 AM

@ Respect

"the greatest predictor of the future is the past"

Not always necessarily. There's the matter of looking at an improvement curve and extrapolating it. Crutchlow is by far the most improved rider on the grid this year and has made a quantum leap from last year in terms of his potential. Clearly that's what Ducati are looking at when offering him a factory ride.

None of which will affect Spies however, as I agree that he'll almost certainly retain his seat in the works Yamaha squad.

Don-R

July 09, 2012 10:15 AM

@ Respect

Then by that principle you would expect Crutchlow to be better again next year. Because history shows that in every class he has contested in successive years he has made dramatic improvements. BSS: 10th-3rd-1st BSB: 9th-3rd. MotoGP 12th-? To date he has not ever gone backwards in a class he has stayed in. So history again suggests he will continue to improve in MotoGP. To what level nobody knows, but I very much doubt he's a rider we've seen the best of yet. That's a fairly objective view based on stats.

50thR1 - Unregistered

July 09, 2012 10:25 AM

@Don-R
As your comments most of the time are interesting to read, I wonder what your views are for next Year. You seem quite sure about B Smiths Tech-3 position on a sattelite Yamaha. Although as a Yamaha fan this is really difficult to accept. Based on what does he deserve such a bike. Anyway, this article is on Spies/Dovi. Dovi has said on several occasions that he wants a factory ride next year. If Ben Spies remains to the head squad where will Dovi go? My suggestion would be to put Cal on the factory bike. Like you mentioned it is his 2nd year and he is really improving. Following the races this year he seems more fast then dovi and ceratinly faster then Spies. If Yamaha shouls pick an american I think Hayden will be faster on the M1 then Spies?

Respect - Unregistered

July 09, 2012 10:30 AM

@ Don-R

And it's also true that the field will improve as well. Experience is the greatest teacher. Surely you don't expect the rest to stand by and not improve as well.

@respect if history is the best predictor of the future,then i guess yamaha would not sign spies for next season,going by this seasons performance...... but life is not like that,and he may keep his ride even tho results say he should be dropped,... crutchlow is still new to gps and is still learning and getting faster,dovi has hit a wall for a couple of seasons now,3 yrs on a repsol and nothing like taking the race wins on pure pace, but a good steady rider,a podium contender some weeks.so it looks like cal has more to offer(potential wise)all these guys are talented,some just want it bad,or more than the others(enter crutchlow)and when you get a guy with sheer natural talent,and an (i want it bad attitude) enter j rea . someday maybe.

Don-R

July 09, 2012 11:32 AM
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@ 50thR1

Cal won't get a factory Yamaha next year. He's fast but has some learning to do, and the UK sales market isn't significant enough to bolster his chances. I think he'll take the Ducati deal.

On Smith, I think HP panicked a bit last year when it looked like Crutchlow wouldn't cut it. Having a Brit in the team is advantageous because it earns Tech 3 a Dorna cash subsidy, and Brad is also a Monster-sponsored rider anyway. So it's a good fit. Personally I think Scott Redding will prove a more successful MotoGP rider than Brad, but that's IMHO.

Smith's contract btw has no performance clauses but Yamaha reportedly aren't happy, so we'll see. Herve has got himself into a fix.

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