MotoGP » Valentino Rossi: Audi 'counting on me' at Ducati


"It's a very ambitious project and I'm happy about it" - Valentino Rossi.

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fish fingers - Unregistered

July 09, 2012 9:11 PM

"Audi's goal is to sell cars".., lol You don't think like a brand. VW made Audi the official purchaser because it looks better. They snatched Ducati from right under the noses of Mercedes and I am sure they have big plans to sell many bikes of all types in all territories and at all price levels.

TedG

July 09, 2012 9:12 PM
Last Edited 773 days ago

Ah Pierre brings up a good point about instant gratification.
With something like an IPhone an engineer can design it and test it along with PA to see if it meets marketing's requirements. Even an automobile allows for engineers to test to see if things work, and if they don't they can keep hammering until they do.
Racing motorcycles allow no such luxury. First it is designed using available info and constraints. Then it is easy to make parts fit, you know that almost instantly. Ahh but does the thing work? That info is in the hands of the riders, so they have to have a test day or race and that could be weeks in addition to actually making the change. If it doesn't you then have to make a change, but wait, what do you do? It was designed with the best knowledge you have. So you look to set up data and see what the adjustments yielded. Uh Oh the adjustments didn't do squat, then try a radical change, oh crap that is worse and that took a month to implement and test. And it goes on....

TedG

July 09, 2012 9:13 PM
Last Edited 773 days ago

continued,
And it goes on. The rider can't tell you to change the rake and trail, he tells you it understeers and chatters. You as the engineer decide how to fix it. Then you go back and try a many things each race to try to fix the many problems. Ducati's problem is they don't have the years and years of different setup results that H and Y have to make the changes. And you need to be willing to change what doesn't work today just because it worked 3 years ago.
AND IMHO their firmware engineers need to take a long hard look at their algorithms especially in the traction control department.

Agent55

July 09, 2012 9:18 PM

What's with all the prophets on Crash?

"Rossi's career is over!"

"Vale has no where else to go but Ducati!"

Seriously, add something to the conversation, state an opinion, but for f***s sake, don't make such proclamations when you clearly aren't well educated in the sport let alone have any insider dirt!

RSMick

July 09, 2012 9:23 PM
Last Edited 773 days ago

Pierre
The only thing that Mr Furusawa did when Rossi arrived was listen and get his staff to listen. Prior to that they refused and decided that no changes would be made and the bike will be set up to ridden in the way it was designed.
No I don't have inside information, just read Mats Larssons experience of it all, he said Rossi asked for no more than 2 riders in the previous year, Checa and Barros. The difference was Burgess was allowed to set the bike up as he thought would suit his rider, others were not. No majical engineering changes that people for some reason believe was the case.
And Agent55, you are right don't see his rumoured courting Suzuki paying off.
People should realise what happened at Suzuki when the VW group moved in there, the same thing could happen at Ducati.

Sophie H - Unregistered

July 09, 2012 9:31 PM

Let us clear something up please.When Rossi "develops" the Ducati into the best bike on the grid and starts winning races again it will be all fine and dandy.
But in the mean time,when someone else is winning the races his fans shout:-
"HE IS ONLY WINNING BECAUSE HE IS ON THE BEST BIKE"
Can someone please explain this theory to me.I cant quite get my head around that one.

Vilas - Unregistered

July 09, 2012 9:38 PM

youtube.com/watch?v=32G-qcyXSzE

youtube.com/watch?v=SbRxmPykiug&feature=relmfu

With the choice of the engine, Valentino Rossi change completly the Yamaha philosofie..

Now wach this your NOOBS

dave - Unregistered

July 09, 2012 9:48 PM


@Sofie H

Simple, if Rossi develops the bike into a winner it wont be because of the bike, No No No it will be because Rossi is a 9 times yes 9 times, how many times champion, a 9 times champion so the bike will not matter it's Rossi that is the difference, as all the blind followers would have you believe.

Liam48 - Unregistered

July 09, 2012 9:48 PM

Listening to Eurosport of Sunday Toby Moody & Julian Ryder said Rossi and his team I.e Jerry Burgess etc... think they know what is wrong with the bike and how to fix it but Preziozi doesn't want to listen as he doesn't like being told what to do, they should listen to Rossi & co. to see if their opinions will make the bike better.

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