MotoGP » Mugello MotoGP test times - Monday 1pm

MotoGP lap times as of 1pm, during Monday's post-race test session at Mugello.

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M1M - Unregistered

July 16, 2012 12:39 PM

The NGM Forward team have already ditched their Suter frames in Moto2 and as predicted, it looks highly likely they'll follow suit with their CRT bike. Eskil Suter spends all his time at the back of Marquez's garage, working on settings and upgrades for Repsol's wonderboy that only later trickle down to the other Suter riders, if at all, so he may step outside one day to find that nobody else is using his chassis. By the way, does anybody know what happened with the civil case that the Marc VDS team was bringing against him for failing to honour his 'equal treatment' contract last year?

blah - Unregistered

July 16, 2012 1:19 PM

Suters problem isnt favoring Marquez, its building mediocre frames. They didnt win the championship back in 2010 either when Marquez wasnt even in Moto2.

10 Valentino Rossi 1m 48.502s
8 Valentino ROSSI 1:48.565

New engine hasnt made a huge difference for Rossi.

Player1 - Unregistered

July 16, 2012 1:27 PM

10 Valentino Rossi 1m 48.502s
8 Valentino ROSSI 1:48.565

What were you expecting in 20 laps or so.... 1.47's.
You realise that they are testing for a few days don't you..... ? Not just for 20 laps !

some1 - Unregistered

July 16, 2012 1:40 PM

I wonder why there is no prototype engine leasing available in MotoGP?

Why not allows BMW. Aprilia, Kawasaki, Suzuki or other bike makers to lease their prototype engine for privateer teams?

CRT is too slow and uncompetitive enough for the MotoGP race.

M1M - Unregistered

July 16, 2012 2:01 PM

BMW, Aprilia, Kawasaki and Suzuki don't have any prototype GP engines to lease. Suzuki are working on an in line 4 prototype but that's likely to be a full prototype bike if they decide to come back to MotoGP. Why would a factory develop a MotoGP engine without a frame? The ECU and mapping are an indispensable part of being competitive and they'd need to run their engine in races to develop the electronics to the level of being able to compete with the other factories so they'd want an in house frame to eliminate variables. The problem for the CRTs is that they can't run the same level of tuning the WSBK bikes use because they're restricted to 12 engines for an 18 race season, (plus practice and qualifying), whereas the top WSBK teams are using a brand new engine per race.

poopoe - Unregistered

July 16, 2012 2:15 PM


That's the same time Rossi did in the race.
If you ask me, looks like they don't have any "new" engine or upgrade at all.

I just hope I'm wrong, hope they can go faster with setup... but at the end of the day I realize that's Ducati, a egomaniac motorcycle factory that think they know everything and they do what they like, not what their pilots want. And a Egomaniac motorcycle Factory that put Preziosi as his own head, a dude that doesn't want to change anything to his weird experiment of bike... and the same chanter is repeated year after year.


July 16, 2012 4:01 PM

@some1 you're missing the point of CRT. Nobody expected it to be competitive in year 1. What CRT is supposed to be about is getting new manufacturers into the game to develop a more competitive infrastructure over the next few years.

And there is nothing in the rules to prevent engine leasing. It's not a choice between MSMA or CRT. If you could find somebody to lease you a competitive engine or you could convince Yamaha, Honda or Ducati to lease you the kit you could build your own prototype. Remember it's happened often enough before, but nobody has won doing it.

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