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“…and also tried some different engine specification to help us choose the direction to work in for the future” – Jorge Lorenzo.

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Pam

July 17, 2012 2:36 PM

The current M1 is certainly not the same as the 2002 version. This test seems to have had no major breakthroughs from anyone, and that's bad news for everyone, except Lorenzo. He is certainly proving all his detractors wrong, the man knows how to make that bike go. Curious that Honda have been unable to stop the chatter, I don't get that. Wish they provided more info on set up changes.

there there now - Unregistered

July 17, 2012 2:49 PM


@PAM:

" He is certainly proving all his detractors wrong "

I remember all the Crash experts saying when Rossi left Yamaha, that he would be lost, and couldn't give the feedback for the designers and engineers back at Yamaha HQ to carry on the development of the M1, looks like he has done a fantastic job don't you think.

asefi

July 17, 2012 4:37 PM

Checa wasn't riding the same M1 as Valentino in 2004.

Nobody had the same spec as Rossi. Nobody really ever has in the same team until Jorge came along and exposed it all.

They were still running the crappy pre-Furusawa M1s in 2004.

I don't even think Colin ever got the same spec as Rossi in his factory Yamaha days.

King Kenny - Unregistered

July 17, 2012 7:15 PM

Sorting out the chattering isn't that easy, so it's understandable that the mighty Honda is still struggling. For instance, Yamaha had a lot of chatter in the first few tests, but by Sepang 2 the chatter was gone. The funny thing is that neither Lorenzo's crew nor the engineers from Yamaha know exactly how they got rid of it, it just wasn't there anymore (this was told by Lin Jarvis in an interview after the Sepang 2 tests).

The origin of chattering is the 2012 Bridgestone tyres, because they have so much grip -it's a side effect of the changes asked by the teams in 2011 to avoid the early lap crashes due to cold tyres.

Another example of the difficult nature of chattering: Spies struggled with chattering all weekend at Mugello, while Lorenzo didn't experience any. Same bike, different setup and riding style.

King Kenny - Unregistered

July 17, 2012 7:23 PM

Dovizioso has been studying Lorenzo's data to make the most of his Yamaha and further his understanding of the bike. According to him, the data revealed that Lorenzo's smooth and flowing style meant he was faster while pushing the bike less to the limit, which was key to his regularity and relative lack of mistakes.

Maybe this style is also responsible for Lorenzo avoiding the chattering that sometimes suffer other Yamaha riders, like it was Spies's case at Mugello. It's too bad that Lorenzo's setup doesn't work for Ben.

there there now - Unregistered

July 17, 2012 7:58 PM


@king kenny:

" Lorenzo's smooth and flowing style "

That is why he does not get chatter, as he does not load the tires like Ben, who is far more aggressive on and off the throttle during corner exit.

CRT - Unregistered

July 17, 2012 8:21 PM

They were still running the crappy pre-Furusawa M1s in 2004.

I don't even think Colin ever got the same spec as Rossi in his factory Yamaha days.
Posted by asefi

No and yes.

The 2004 M1's were the same frame and engine. The specs to the machines were different (much like the factory and satelites now).

Rossi was using the latest and greatest from ohlins before anyone else (including other teams). So yes, his bike was different in that essence however, the rest of the teams were not using the 2003 spec bike as you stated.

Colin was a test mule for Rossi, this has been well documented. Colin did a lot of the testing during practice, and if the parts were proved good, they were given to Rossi. This is why we always saw Colin qualify and practice well. This however does not mean ROssi did not test anything.

there there now - Unregistered

July 17, 2012 8:24 PM


@1motion:

Well Well if it ain't 1 motion, passing one at the keyboard, it's well known that Jorge is the smoothest rider out there telemetry has shown he is far gentler going into and out of corners, also he brakes less aggressively too which helps, anyhow suppose you enlighten me Mr stirrer.

King Kenny - Unregistered

July 17, 2012 8:52 PM

To realize of Jorge's smooth riding style one doesn't need to check the telemetry: just look at him during qualifying, he'll be chasing pole and look like he's riding around for fun, enjoying the weather... He's working hard as the other riders, but just doesn't look like it because you don't see sudden moves.

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