MotoGP » Lorenzo to Ben Spies: Stay calm and focused

“I don't think it's a question of talent or speed... If Ben is focused and calm he can be on the podium and sometimes win” – Jorge Lorenzo.

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kopko - Unregistered

July 18, 2012 8:24 AM

What Lorenzo doesn't say at all is that in his contract says very clear that only him get the updates first. Then, a very long time later, all others.

So, even if your an alien, you can't beat a guy that go to a fight with a gun, and you with a knife.

Mr Bojangles - Unregistered

July 18, 2012 8:43 AM

poor mental focus and a terrible crew since he started on the factory team. I give him credit for trying to change his riding style, even though it made him worse. Need to change your lines vs changing your riding position brah. Maybe he needs to go bang some bars at King Kenny's ranch like Jorge did.

m78 - Unregistered

July 18, 2012 8:48 AM

I like spies but he just doesnt have that extra bit needed to be a factory rider.

That was a lucky win he had anyway as simoncelli highsided and held everyone up behind him

He was good in WSB but in GP he is in reality a 4th-7th place finisher (when he doesnt have problems)


July 18, 2012 9:18 AM
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Actually the rule makers look very dimly on anti-competitive practices such as contracts that refer to other riders. For example a contract that stated when other riders were allowed updates would not be allowed, nor would a contract that stipulated who else was allowed a factory bike. I mention the latter because I know somebody on here mentioned that Lorenzo had a "no Rossi" clause in his 2013 contract.

Also Yamaha would be pretty stupid to agree to either clause. What if Lorenzo was off form and his team mate right on it, would they still want to give Lorenzo all the best bits? What if Lorenzo was injured early in the season, would they want a third rate rider in the other factory seat?

In the first case think of Pedrosa and Stoner right now? If you were Honda would you want to be bound by a contract that says Stoner gets all the best bits?


July 18, 2012 9:27 AM

Completely untrue about Lorenzo getting parts first. At every official test the two riders have been given exactly the same parts to test. You don't hire 2 factory riders and exclude one from development.


July 18, 2012 9:36 AM

The thing about Ben's list of excuses is that some of them just seem to me to be that he didn't ride well. Hardly a problem beyond his control. Some of the others just don't seem to ring true.

The one that puzzled me at the time was Qatar. Chatter caused by bike damage? Were that the case surely he would have been slow from the off. In fact he put in a handful of decent laps and then slowed, going backwards through the field as a result. Also while it may have seemed valid to some at the time in light of subsequent performances it must seem less valid.

When it comes down to it it seems that Ben has had considerable trouble adapting to the new bike and tyres. He seems to be improving and a couple of home races might help him get his confidence back. There is, however, absolutely no way it should be taking him so long to get a bike working that is working better than fine for his team mate.


July 18, 2012 9:57 AM

Ben's gotta turn it around starting at home! If he's able to get on the podium consistently for the remainder of the season, he 'might' be able to keep his ride. On the other hand, Dovi has always been consistent, and looks to be a certain replacement for the factory ride. Maybe Herve will reconsider and either swap Ben for Dovi or run 3 bikes (one for Smith...which I still think is premature).

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