MotoGP » Lorenzo to Ben Spies: Stay calm and focused


“I don't think it's a question of talent or speed... If Ben is focused and calm he can be on the podium and sometimes win” – Jorge Lorenzo.

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Hemmy - Unregistered

July 21, 2012 11:35 AM

.............cannot be used as an argument to say he doesnt dererve the factory M1.

Im no hater of Spies by any means, but when you consider the bike he has, he is clearly the most underacheiving rider on the grid.

Don-R

July 21, 2012 12:09 PM

According to Italian newspaper Il Messagero, Yamaha will formally announce Spies' departure from the factory team at Laguna (his place supposedly to be taken by Rossi, with Monster sponsorship). The story has been repeated in GPInside.

Large pinch of salt required for the above though - it's a little hard to imagine Yamaha would choose a US round to fire an American rider.

Cammyspop

July 21, 2012 1:23 PM

"Large pinch of salt required for the above though - it's a little hard to imagine Yamaha would choose a US round to fire an American rider."

We're not talking about firing him here, we're talking about not renewing his contract. Anyway the usual form is not to announce that a rider is leaving, but to announce the signing of a new rider. Then follow that with a short message thanking the outgoing rider and saying they'll be sorry to see him go.

If Ben is going to lose his seat it needs to happen sooner rather than later for his sake so that he'll have time to find something else for next year. I'd hate to see him lose his seat at the end of the season and fail to negotiate a decent ride for next year.

Don-R

July 21, 2012 1:42 PM
Last Edited 793 days ago

Quite right, it wouldn't be a 'firing' as such, but rather a decision not to offer a contract extension.

But the news would be received exactly the same way if announced at a US venue. It's hard to envision Yamaha inviting that kind of negative PR.

Hookem

July 21, 2012 4:52 PM
Last Edited 793 days ago

@ Hemmy

I can only hope he will keep his seat. Things I think Yamaha should look at are the past 3 1/2 years Ben has been with Yamaha.

He did win them their first and only SBK World Championship in spectacular fashion. Prompting them to give him a ride in MotoGP with Tech 3.

His first year in MotoGP he finished 6th. He sat on the pole once, placed 2nd once and 3rd once. Last year he won at Assen and stood on the podium two more times with a 2nd and 3rd finishing the season in 5th place.

Dorna and Yamaha are not stupid and would not consider every possible angle. Does Mr. Spies help sell motorcycles in the US? Of course he does. Has he helped them garner a World Championship? Yes he has. Would they consider Dovi's performance last year on the Honda? Of course they would. That variable would seem to be to Dovi's advantage in my mind. I do not know where some of the guys are coming from. Yes Honda was the best kit last year. But Dovi placed 3rd in the World Championship.

Hookem

July 21, 2012 4:59 PM

So Hemmy in a yes or no world based soley on Ben's season thus far. No he does not deserve a new contract with Yamaha.

Looking at the big picture of what he has done for Yamaha in the past 3 years and taking into consideration some of the reasons for his performance this year. Or since it is Ben Spies in your world Hemmy excuses. Not resons or circumstances like you say talking about Casey there is a chance all be it be very slim he will get a new contract with Yamaha.

You keep your fingers crossed he will not get a new contract and I will keep em crossed hoping he does.

Hookem

July 21, 2012 5:13 PM

As far as the Vanlentino Rossi going to Yamaha with Marlboro as the sponsor.

Yamaha would be out of its cotton pickin mind not to jump at the chance to have Valentino back. With the big money Marlboro brings to the table and having the most recognizable rider in MotoGP they would be foolish not to.

And to those who think Val is washed up I would not bet against him. Not me.

Hemmy - Unregistered

July 21, 2012 10:56 PM

Hookem, well im glad that you have finally admitted that he doesnt deserve a contract renewal.

Now of clurse Yamaha also agree with you that he doesnt deserve a contract renewal based on his results.

But to say you think they should take into consideration his previous results over the last 3 years....well thats not the way they do things. Favtory teams dont hire people on what they have done in the past, they look at the here and now, and at the moment they have a guy that is seriously underperforming with probably the best bike on the grid, regardless of the if's and but's.

Hemmy - Unregistered

July 21, 2012 10:56 PM

And im not keeping my fingers crossed that he loses his ride at all, but one thing i will say is that i want the ride to go to someone who deserves it based on results, not based on what they have done in the past, not whether they have won AMA umpteen times, or won WSB on his first shot with tracks he didnt know blah blah, not even whether they have 7 MotoGP titles, but current results and forward progression.

Based on that, along with current results, the only person who deserves that ride is Dovi, with Cal being not too far behind him.

I want to see the rider thats the most capable of providing us with some good entertainment, and from what we have witnessed so far, Spies is not that man.

Cammyspop

July 21, 2012 11:08 PM

Hookem if you want to base a decision to employ Spies on what he has done for Yamaha in the past rather than the way he is riding now then you have to do the same for the other candidates.

Which of the available riders has done most for Yamaha in the past? Rossi.

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