MotoGP » Lorenzo to Ben Spies: Stay calm and focused


“I don't think it's a question of talent or speed... If Ben is focused and calm he can be on the podium and sometimes win” – Jorge Lorenzo.

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das boot

July 20, 2012 3:53 PM

I am an American and I like Spies, he's got the talent to be a front runner but a combination of bad confidence and bad luck have him down the charts this year. Honestly, if I were Yamaha management I would offer the seat to Dovi. Dovi would be the perfect second rider on that team, he is fast enough to put himself in between the Honda riders and Lorenzo but not fast enough to beat Lorenzo.

I want to see Crutchlow on the Ducati, although it just may be career suicide for him, but a nice paycheck to collect while he is still in his riding years. I'd like to see Dovi on the Yamaha. With a Lorenzo/Dovi combo next year, Honda will be no match Pedrosa/Marquez.

shamarone

July 20, 2012 3:56 PM

re: "What Ben needs to do more than anything else is stop making excuses and address the biggest problem which is clearly the relationship between him and the bike."

or him and the tyres...? as we now have IRREFUTABLE proof that tyres are an issue for many others BESIDES spies.

given a cursory glance one could see he's been on nothing but an UPWARD progression since his arrival in grandprix... well... until the "rug" (err carcass) was pulled out from under him at the start of 2012.

i mentioned MONTHS ago (pre dutch TT), spies and rossi have similiar styles. fast forward to assen and it's NOT coincidence that it was those 2 that had their tyres chunk even while on 2 bikes that couldn't be more different design wise. yet in 2001, spies CAKEWALKED ASSEN...!?

ie. 2 guys with same style = 2 guys having a tough time = 2 guys with chunked rears = 2 guys with same style = 2 guys having a tough time = A VICIOUS CIRCLE...!!

shamarone

July 20, 2012 4:00 PM

re: "At this point Ben seems to be unsure of what was the cause of his strange malady that came over him overnight before the race. This could well be a case of nerves or extreme pressure which is far more difficult to control."

or actually food poisoning. there have been more than a few riders hit with this over the years. it's not new. it's an unfortunate trade off for being a globe trotter.

shamarone

July 20, 2012 4:05 PM

re: "Apparently he has said he wants to fight for a champioship and he doesn't care if it's Moto GP or WSB as long as it's a world championship."

holy crap, that is the most outstanding comment i have ever heard...!!! dovi may have gottdamn IQ of 160...!?!? :D

Hookem

July 20, 2012 4:36 PM
Last Edited 789 days ago

There are excuses and there are reasons. Yes Mr. Spies has had both this year. Could a possible cracked frame be the cause of his performance at Qatar? Possible. Could having tire problems at 2 races be the cause of him not getting better results? Possibly. Could being sick have a possible outcome in the last race? Possibly.

Excuses or not there have been reasons why in 4 races that have been held so far this year that there could have been reasons why Mr. Spies did not perform up to expectations of his fans, Yamaha and certainly Bens. Hopefully he will get it together and start performing up to his expectations.

It is very obvious that some fans have the "Janet" syndrome, as in "what have you done for me lately" which is fine. But some of the post here saying he seems disintrested or unconcerned about his year to date in the 2012 season I find very unreasonable.

Hookem

July 20, 2012 4:38 PM

Nobody, not even the CRT riders get to this level without being tuff as nails and world class athletes. This aint the Scooby Doo series.

Yes Ben has had excuses. But by the same token Ben has had reasons why he is in the positon he is in now.

That being said Mr. Spies fought tooth and nail to get where he is today in the world of motorcycle racing. They do not give you "Championships" in any series. Some of you guys obviously think Mr. Spies is not worthy of his ride at Yamaha.

And to that your are entitled. But the way I see it he earned his spot at Yamaha and the 2 year contract he is riding under right now.

Hemmy - Unregistered

July 20, 2012 5:00 PM

@Hookem, yes i agree with alot of what you say, but each and every riders has his reasons/excuses as to why there are in the position they are. The fact is that probably the best factory bike out there right now should not be running around at the back, when the other one is running at the front. Yamaha dont want to know reason/excuses as to why this is happening, they just want it sorting out and a rider who can bring home the points and take some away from Honda.

I agree that Spies well and truely deserved his seat on the factory M1, regardless of what machinary and support he had over Edwards at tech 3, but the question is, do you think that based on his last 2 years on the factory bike, has he earnt a contract renewaland the chance to have another shot at it?

I personally cant see how anyone can 'hand on the heart' say that he does.

Hookem

July 20, 2012 6:39 PM
Last Edited 789 days ago

@ Hemmy

"do you think that based on his last 2 years on the factory bike, has he earnt a contract renewaland the chance to have another shot at it?"

Last time I looked there is some races left in his "2 years" on a factory bike. Last year he did win a dry race. Something that nobody else has done unless your name is Dani, Casey, Lorenzo or Valentino in a very long time. His time at Tech 3 was very good I thought. Not bad for a rookie on a bunch of tracks he did not know. Last year he improved. Should he be doing better? Of course.

When you look at tyre issues, helmet problems, cracked frame and illness have prevented Ben from having a good year to date.

Just my opinion mind you, that we have not seen the real Mr. Spies this year for a variety of or reasons and or excuses. I certainly think that Mr. Spies could well be out his factory ride if his year ends as it has gone thus far.

Hookem

July 20, 2012 6:40 PM

The way some of you guys talk the year is over with no chance whatsoever of Ben being able to salvage the year with 9 races left. You do not win races and get on the podium's in MotoGP unless you have the talent.

Throw him under the bus if you like. I hope he retains his seat at Yamaha and they will annouce him signing a new contract with Yamaha at Laguna or Indy.

das boot

July 20, 2012 7:52 PM

@Hookem As far as contracts go, the year is over for Ben. It seems in GP most contracts are signed by about halfway, so a rider has to proof his worth in the first half. I like Ben, I know he has the talent, but something is not working for him this year and the real cause seems to be a combination of several things. That said, if I were hiring a rider for next years factory team, and I had the choice of Spies or Dovi, I would go with Dovi.

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