MotoGP » Edwards blasts 'piece of sh*t' bike, Aprilia at Indy?


"We had our ass smacked and our balls tickled and it just hasn't come to fruition. Some of the things we were promise just haven't happened" - Colin Edwards.

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Nick636

July 27, 2012 10:35 AM

Cammyspop

Look, I don't think ANYONE thought the CRT's would be competitive. But they were DEFINITELY hoping to fight one or two backmarkers. Yes, Colin was never a race winner in GP, but he was also never an also ran. The fact is, you are arguing a separate point that isn't even in this story. Edwards' bike is a joke, and the CAME bike too. The fact that one bike in particular is 40km/h slower on top end is RIDICULOUS!!! That's like racing a WSS against a WSBK Bike.

At the end of the day, if this particular brand of motorcycle racing wants to maintain the 'Pinnacle of motorcycle racing' monacre, it can't go the route of the CRT's. If you don't understand that, you don't understand the hierarchy, period.

bigmart - Unregistered

July 27, 2012 10:38 AM

Good ol' Colin

Tells it like he see's it. No corporate lines from him!

Suter are surely killing their own business. I cant remember a good news story involving them - dating back from the FP-1 days right up till now. Even when they have success (with Marquez) they p*** the rest of their customers off

Cammyspop

July 27, 2012 10:40 AM

Nick you're still not getting it. The point of CRT is to get new chassis builders in. When Moto1 comes along these guys will get to use the full fat engines. Quite how this will be achieved I don't know. Current suggestions are that factory entries won't be allowed and therefore they will be selling or leasing the engines to the teams. Another is that factory entries will be allowed, but they will be forced to lease the same engines to other teams.

Either way the point of CRT was never to be competitive, just to give the chassis manufacturers an entry into the sport so that they've got experience when Moto1 comes along.

brendan - Unregistered

July 27, 2012 11:10 AM

what did colin expect??

frankly i think he is making a fool of himself by moaning about it. We all know he could of had a decent wsbk ride, HE chose not to.

either suck it up, or leave.

RSMick

July 27, 2012 11:22 AM

Cammyspop, where have you read all this?
The factories will never release their full blown engines for sale otherwise all factories will get their hands on them. That won't happen, Honda will be selling a dumbed down version and good on them, just to prove what they have always said that the ART is a piece of poo, as they said they believe CRT can be closer.
The trouble is not getting 250hp from a 1000 engine, but getting the power to the ground and reliability, as someone said WSB engines can be changed every session if they want, which is almost the case for Aprillia.
Moto1 won't arrive they won't rebrand it again.

Cammyspop

July 27, 2012 11:23 AM

@brendan you hit the nail on the head. I get the distinct impression that Colin expected the Suter to be competitive and now he's complaining because he made a stupid judgement call.

One thing Edwards has proved is that the CRT teams will always have problems with the electronics. This is of course why there will be a standard package available to CRT teams next year if they want it. The big question over that is who will be developing that ECU and what background they have to make it work.

bigmart - Unregistered

July 27, 2012 11:41 AM

Cammyspop - i think Edwards is referring to promises being made by Suter/BMW ("getting your ass smacked and balls tickled") about support and development, which just havent transpired. He was basically sold a pup. He probably does regret chosing the Suter/BMW bike over all the other offers he got, and I doubt he will be sticking around in CRT after the end of the season.
You call it whinging and moaning, I call it honesty. If you dont want to hear it then lets get loads of PR savvy robots into the sport - cant wait.

Cammyspop

July 27, 2012 11:44 AM
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@RSMick the problem you seem to have is that you believe that the status quo will remain. Moto1 will come and if the factories want to take part at all they will have to comply with whatever the rules happen to be. This is why I believe that the ban on direct factory entries is the best route.

We've heard all this before anyway. When Moto2 was first mooted there were plenty who said it wouldn't work and that the factories would block it. Well the class seems to be in rude health to me.

Likewise Moto3, plenty of pundits said it wouldn't work without Aprilia's buy in. Here we are half way through year one with close racing, a close championship and a very varied grid. Indeed the series seems to have benefited from Aprilia's absence. Those who predicted the same dominance this year that we saw from Aprilia in 125 were wrong.

Some assume that Honda can block Moto1, but I can't see how. Sure they want to flood the grid with productionized RCVs but that won't be enough.

Cammyspop

July 27, 2012 11:53 AM

@pcxmac you are very wrong. The thing about the Bridgestone tyre is that it effects everybody as much. The problem at the moment with electronics is that the factories are way ahead of the CRT teams. What Dorna are suggesting for next year is not a "spec" ECU. They are proposing to fund the development of an ECU that CRT teams and only CRT teams can buy at a knock down price.

Several CRT teams have spoken of problems with their ECUs this year and in particular traction control and it's not surprising. There's simply no real experience of traction control for racing bikes outside of the factories.

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