MotoGP » Ben Spies accident caused by 'broken swingarm'


"Had a solid 4th wrapped up till the swingarm decided to break" - Ben Spies.

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Worsethanoob - Unregistered

July 30, 2012 5:11 PM

What a load of plonkers on here who have no idea about engineering,Moto gp or anything much else it seems.
Thank goodness Ben or anyone else for that matter wasnt badly hurt or killed for that matter.aside from the fact that I don't like to see anyone injured in my favourite sport,in the current era any and all things seem to be an excuse to further slow down/dumb down the racing.
I fully expect that all manufacturers strip and crack test(ndt) all major chassis components for each meeting.
It's just another example of the luck poor old spies is having at the moment,if he was in a marching band he'd be the pianist!

ffwdm5

July 30, 2012 5:32 PM

For those saying Spies should fire his crew (Houseworth, Woody, etc.), think back to his WSBK year. Spies and Houseworth said they brought Woody into the team specifically to keep the factory Yamaha techs from adjusting the bike differently than they wanted. I think their comment was "Watch that bike and don't let them touch it." Of course, I can't find a link to any article about it now. :/

It sounds like Spies is going through the same thing with the factory MotoGP team. The statement a few days ago that they are not being allowed to adjust things as they would like makes me think Yamaha want it done one way while Ben and his guys (House/Woody) would like to go a different way.

The point is I don't think Houseworth or Woody are the probem for Ben, but maybe some of the factory crew are. Hope he gets it sorted for the rest of the year and wherever he ends up after that.

Pam

July 30, 2012 6:04 PM

Of course there are 2 sides to every story, but I've read the same thing about Spies not being allowed to set up the bike the way he wants. Clearly this team and rider are at odds with each other, very similar to Rossi and Ducati.

shamarone

July 30, 2012 6:12 PM

re: "A one bike rule increases the likelihood of the kind of crash Spies suffered yesterday. Rushing to repair a single bike in time for the next race, or round of qualifying, means any defects are more likely to be missed. A team might even be tempted to take a chance on equipment if they're under pressure to make the race, rather than stripping everything down properly and checking thoroughly"

exactly. once again here's the reoccuring theme of "no free lunch". any benefits seen in cost savings will only show up as an INCREASE in safety issues.

Q: wait, i you mean to tell me i can't have my cake and eat it too...?

A: nope.

RocketR1

July 30, 2012 6:35 PM

I was one of Yamahas biggest fans having run there bikes/snowmobiles sence the age of 5 and watching them race motorcycles sence the Eddie Lawson days, but the way they are treating everyone outside of Jorge just isn't right,Its being reported now that Dovi will get the Factory ride only if Rossi refuses it...if I were AD I'd tell them to shove it!
It sure does change my outlook on supporting this manufacture..not that it would matter to them.

Chris Crowell - Unregistered

July 30, 2012 7:43 PM

Wasn't a Spies fan until I saw the Daytona tire test crash. This guy is tough and no wine'r. 180mp+ on your backside, how many of you haters have been there done that? He has more talent in his broken heal than most.He has brilliantly endure the anti-American culture in Europe for several years now and I'm sure it gets old. Did he take it to one of the winning-est American Super-bike riders or what, remember Maladin

mr G - Unregistered

July 30, 2012 7:48 PM

are you guys for real? yamaha trying too ''kill'' ben? lol! u guys really are a very fickle bunch anit ya so what about perdrosa a couple years ago in japan when his throttle got suck wide open going into turn1? where honda trying too hurt or ''kill' pedrosa? please go back too the sad little rocks u managed too crawl from.

Realist

July 30, 2012 8:04 PM

The worst part about many of the people here is that they are fair weather fans. They follow certain riders UNTIL those riders begin to have issues, then it's off to the next rider. Rarely are riders credited on their achievements/merit.

aeolus

July 30, 2012 8:20 PM

Pedro was not moving at speed when his throttle stuck and it is rare indeed for a top line manufacturer to have mechanical issues these days. Yes an engine will occasional let go but not that often especially now with the limits in place. On the other hand, Ben's swing arm failure recalled to mind Colin Chapman and his Lotus GP racers (the f-1 of the day) that killed several drivers (Jim Clark the most noteworthy but also Jochen Rindt) with suspension failures. The Williams team spent years in court battling the Italian justice system because of a equipment failure that killed Ayrton Senna.Had Ben's swing arm failed at Mugello at 214 mph and killed him you can know that Yamaha would be in court fighting criminal charges.

Strange - Unregistered

July 30, 2012 8:23 PM

It looked strange seeing him cart wheel like Big Bird from Sesame Street. Ever since he joined motogp he hasnt really had a good start. Maybe wsbk or ama better suits him. It's hard to compete in motogp when you dont have the 125 or 250cc history.

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