MotoGP » Stoner: Pride, not style, key to Ducati success

"I think it's just about pride. You need to give that up and ride the Ducati the way it needs to be" - Casey Stoner.

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Puff - Unregistered

August 17, 2012 1:30 PM

These boards are going to be so quiet next year .

Wow RV fans are such immature brats. Twist every word Stoner says. He said you need to ride each bike different and with the Ducati you need to put your pride aside to ride it well. After all he's the only one that could ever ride the thing.

He was always at least a second quicker than his team mates and if he had such an advantage on the bike can someone tell me why Marco and Nicky couldn't get the job done with the same package.

I do believe Stoner would not be as quick on the Ducati now but that's because I believe he's not the same rider now he has announced his retirement. It has bought him back to the field.

Remember guys the Ducati was the first true factor bike he ever had as he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. After reading the Bullshizz that gets posted on this site by stupid readers one cannot blame him for wanting out. The people that make personal attacks on him should be ashamed, you are very little people.

filkang - Unregistered

August 17, 2012 1:55 PM

A true MotoGP fan would miss this guy because he adds excitement on the grid and especially on the race...and that's what a true fan wants. Fact is, he is one of the competitive guys out there that makes MotoGP exciting in this MotoGP era!

Westminister - Unregistered

August 17, 2012 2:08 PM

well said Casey.
You are a race winner on the Ducati & Rossi is the opposite of being a winner on the Ducati.

hopefully Val can listen to Casey's advice and finish with a podium result before he completes his time at Ducati or not!

AntG - Unregistered

August 17, 2012 2:10 PM

What he says is true, in the old times of racing you were given a bike and had to make do with what you were given, nowaday riders want the manufacturers to bend over backwards for them.

hapnin - Unregistered

August 17, 2012 2:50 PM

Someone answer me this.. If stoner was on such a superior bike in 2007-2010, why then was he the only one at ducati to have as much success as he did?? why hasn't nicky or marco had even a fraction of the podiums/wins as stoner? Can all the rossi fans/ stoner haters just admit it had something if not everything to do with rider talent?


August 17, 2012 2:53 PM

Stoner has the RIGHT to say these things whether the Yellow Fan boys like it or not. Stoner rode a Ducati way better than Nicky, Capirex and everyone else by MILES (as a benchmark VR can't outpace Nicky while CS blew Nicky's doors off every Sunday). CS is better qualified than ANYONE to comment on how to get the best out of a Ducati I'd say.
VR Fans see these comments as a swipe at their god - they probably are. Maybe that isn't smart and maybe not 'mature, but I don't really blame the guy either. CS had to put up with VR's put-downs about his ability, Ducati under-valuing his ability until he'd gone, & the disgusting bad behaviour of VR fan Boys booing him when he beat Vale on an inferior bike. Yet VR can do no wrong, and CS gets heaps of abuse still. CS can't do PR-speak like VR, but he's earned the right to say what he wants, & proved that he is fabulously talented where it counts (on the throttle!).


August 17, 2012 2:58 PM
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Just as the history of the world didn't begin in 1900 the history of motorcycle racing didn't start in 1995 for those of you who think that stats is the answer to everything.
Who has the largest percent of wins in a year.
How many have lost out on a WC due to bad luck (not saying he would be) but look at Ben Spies year to date.
Loved him and met him personally, and was a big fan but Ago is top however after Hailwood quit what competition did he have For years he could have and possibly did somewhere lap the whole field.
I've seen riders who should have won a WC but never did some that should have won another one but didn't and seen the best on the best bikes beaten by someone on a far inferior bike and not by default. So as far as I'm concerned you all know what you can do with your stats

memory loss - Unregistered

August 17, 2012 3:02 PM

I love how people are so subjective. "Casey is the greatest of all time", "he is the most dominant rider of the modern era" etc etc all because he won 1 championship on a completely different Ducati to that of the last few years. Oh how quickly people forget. Lets compare some stats, shall we?

Both riders came in to the top class during the year of their 21st birthday, rode a "satellite" bike in their first season and have been full factory riders ever since. Lets look at both of their careers during an equal period of their careers.

Rossi - 2000-2005 - aged 21-26

Wins - 53
Championships - 5 (on the bounce)

Stoner - 2006-2011 - aged 21-26

Wins - 32
Championships - 2

I'm sure most would agree that this age range includes part of their prime. Casey was the most dominant rider of the 800cc era (based on wins), Rossi was the most dominant rider of the 990cc era (based on wins and championships). The Ducati switch has certainly tarnished Rossi's "legacy", but there is no way it undoes

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