MotoGP » Factory MotoGP line-up set until 2015?

Two years until any big changes in the factory MotoGP rider line-ups.

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August 23, 2012 11:15 AM

Screechin' Weasel
Bradley Smith will be useless in MotoGP

As there are not too many poms that have done much good in MotoGP for a long time I can understand your support for him.

But he really should go to Moto3 and only go into Moto2 when he gets fast & consistent.

The only way he got on the Tech3 team was to bring lots of sponsorship dollars.


August 23, 2012 11:20 AM

Brock Landers
I agree with you, MotoGP has taken a back seat to Moto2 & Moto3, both the later have close racing.

Over the last 4 years MotoGP has been 2 or 3 bike races with huge gaps between first, second and third, not at all exciting to watch.

Some races you could tell the finishing positions after 5 to 8 laps, very predictable.

Screechin' Weasel - Unregistered

August 23, 2012 11:38 AM

"In the 125cc class Bradley Smith placed 19th in 2006, 10th in 2007, 6th in 2008, 2nd in 2009 and 4th in 2010.

Cant see a consistent top 3 finisher there can you? "

On proper kit, yes. He finished consistently in the top 3 and challenged for the championship as soon as he got his legs over an Aprilia. In 06/07 he was stuck on a Honda, and Honda wasn't doing ****-all for development on the 125cc. Despite that, he was top Honda rider his 2nd year in GP racing, 10th in the championship. Not bad, IMHO. Also, the previous year's top Honda rider won the 2007 championship by switching to Aprilia.

Why is this germaine? Because he's shown that given a top-flight motorcycle underneath him, he can challenge for the championship and take podiums. The Tech Trois Mistral is not a top-flight motorcycle. And yet, he's still doing a serviceable job in the championship.

Herve's not an idiot - he's a fairly successful team owner and manager. If he's kicking himself over anything in the 2012


August 23, 2012 11:45 AM
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Smith's results in 125 and Moto2 are not really that significant. Time and again we've seen riders who are fast in the lower classes do nothing much in the top flight and vv.

This is even more significant in the days of Moto2. Those machines are too heavy and too slow to act as an indicator of what a rider can do in MotoGP. What Smith (or anybody else) can do on a MotoGP bike will only be proved by what they do on a MotoGP bike.

It's not that I'm saying that Smith will necessarily do well in MotoGP, but I am saying that nobody can say with any certainty what he will do. Most of what has been said is just fanboi ranting.

Noriben - Unregistered

August 23, 2012 1:52 PM

So, Hayden on a Suzuki in 2014? That's not bad ... I had wanted Dovi to stay at Tech3 for another year and join Suzuki instead of taking the risk of going Duke next year, though ...


August 23, 2012 1:58 PM

Yes, Smith's results in 125 and moto2 are not significant - just 3 wins in 6 years and over 100 races. But then fast riders in lower classes 'time and time again' do little in MGP - like Rossi, Pedrosa, Lorenzo, Dovizioso and Simoncelli. Hmm
Moto2 bikes 'too heavy and too slow to be an indicator' - there have only been 2 champions - Elias and Bradl - and one of them is doing rather well.
However, all of this is irrelevant! What is important is sponsorship and riders like Smith have lots - Rossi even more so - and as long as money is the driving factor the better sponsored riders will get the better rides. Its very sad but true and just like F1, it leads to sub-standard riders/drivers being taken on for the $$$.
Herve may see something in Smith everyone has missed but he saw something in James Toseland...


August 23, 2012 1:58 PM

I'm guessing that Dorna want Cal in the series, & Cal wants to stay. If so, then obviously his best bet is resign with T3. But what of his factory ambitions?

Well, it is possible that a factory ride could come about sooner than 2-years. If he does well, then he could threaten Hayden's spot for 2014 if the signed a 1-year deal with T3. Or, he might try to get a deal where he gets one of the factory Yams in the event of a rider getting injured or leaving (I'm not having a pop here, but I'd bet if Rossi doesn't get the results he needs/wants next season he'd choose to retire - at least from MGP, if nothing else to get a decent WSBK ride while his stock was still high enough).

I'd also like to see a comment from Don-R on this, and how he feels the paddock & Dorna rate Cal.


August 23, 2012 2:05 PM

It'd be interesting to find out from the inside how the Paddock rate potential upcoming Moto2 riders as well, esp. Bradley Smith (as seemingly the new guy that the Haters love to hate after CS), Redding, Iannone, Espagaro, and indeed Marquez.

Smith is apparently on a very average ride, while Marquez seems to have kit better than anyone else can have, with unlimited monies for testing and goodies, and the advantage of weighing about as much as a starved hamster. Given that both are (supposedly) destined to be on a prototype motoGP bike next season I'd love to find out what the pro's think of these 2.

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