MotoGP » Redding: Size more important than skill in Moto2

“It's stopped being about who's the best rider in Moto2, because physical size seems to be more important than skill” – Scott Redding.

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pcxmac - Unregistered

September 18, 2012 4:41 PM

it would be better to have weight penalties for winning races/points than to add a minimum weight restriction. You guys really dont understand how beneficial it is to have weight that you can move around on a bike to help balance the suspension/bike.

Its obvious to everyone that Marc has the fastest bike out there and yet hes no heavier than Luthi or Espargaro. Its always been that way and it will continue to be that way when he joins the big leagues, MotoGP is fixed, at least in WSBK they tried to make the field a little more even this year with a better tire selection for the 4's.

nom nom - Unregistered

September 18, 2012 4:48 PM

I can't see why when there is a single engine manufacturer there is no minimum weight limit?

There is no advantage to be had there (with the sealed engine), so a lighter rider must have a better power/weight ratio.

Formula 1 has a minimum weight limit yet they have 800 bhp+ so they obviously think that it makes a difference.

I feel that SR is only talking out of frustration when he sees people passing him in a straight line every lap.

Chris - Unregistered

September 18, 2012 4:49 PM


It is similar to being a short basketball player however, within reason it is not possible to level the playing field in that sport, but in bike racing there is a simple fix!! A'la minimum weight limit... But are we then trying to manufacture close racing, which I am not a fan of!

I didn't insinuate that Spanish are complainers, but intrinsically the championship rulings are geared towards the Spanish (money talks) pressure from the majority of riders, teams, sponsors and fans... Not corruption, just the way it is!! If the majority of sponsors, riders, teams and fans were British it would swing our way

TC - Unregistered

September 18, 2012 4:51 PM

Even F1 has a combined car and driver minimum weight limit along with regulated cockpit sizes as the midget problem was causing normal to larger sized drivers being unable to fit in the slimmed down cars.

I think all race series should have a minimum combined weight limit which does not have to be set at the heaviest riders weight but at a level closer to the average weight, the smaller rider then still has an aero advantage.


September 18, 2012 4:52 PM

'Moto3 has a combined min weight of 148kg.'

Is that really the combined weight? If so its probably only a disadvantage for riders weighing less than 10kg or so...

Little point in having a minimum thats so ridiculously low.

Also a bit stupid for MotoGP team to moan about an extra 4kg ballast when some teams riders (Honda) already have an average 15kg advantage over most of the field

M1M - Unregistered

September 18, 2012 4:59 PM

Weight obviously affects acceleration and therefore the amount of time required to reach top speed, but even if Redding had his way and a combined weight limit were introduced, his size would still have the more significant effect on his top speed compared to physically smaller riders. Then he would have to argue for the introduction of large identical spec fairings for all the bikes to reduce the aerodynamic advantage of smaller riders. It's unfortunate, but the genetics of the majority of people, (i.e. of average height and weight), doesn't suit an ambition to be either a world class basketball player or a jockey.


September 18, 2012 5:01 PM

I think there is a difference between 'moaning' and a legitimate point. And Redding has to be disadvantaged. The MotoGP bikes have a huge surfeit of power - they are not using anything like all the Hp for 90% of the time, so a heavier guy can at least open it up a bit more. The other factor of size - frontal area and drag it seems even affects 250Hp MotoGp bikes (though more to do with the fuel limit). The bigger guy will be harder on tyres too.
Moto 2? Control engine (so no extra Hp available, and not loads to start with). Control ECU. Control Tyres. Given all of the above, that does suggest that a heavier rider is hamstrung, as there are no ways open to him to compensate for the greater mass & weight.
Tell you what - jump on your road bike and ride at 100mph sat bolt-upright, and then ride your fave bends with 15kG extra strapped onto the seat - then tell me weight/size makes no difference. A min weight for Moto2 is 100% needed IMO.


September 18, 2012 5:08 PM

@ pcxmac. I agree with you that Marc Marquez is 'the chosen one' and Dorna etc. all seem to be bending over backwards to accommodate him. As if having Repsol bucks and HRC backing him as well as being talented wasn't enough!

My fear is that (if he's a front-runner in MotoGP as well) that he'll be groomed into the new Rossi - which means MotoGP will have a new king who gets away with far too much, and holds way too much of the balance of power . All the mistakes that were made in building Rossi up to be bigger than the Sport will be repeated with this guy. I've gone off him already - no-one likes the spoilt brat who gets his own way all the time, whether he's talented or not.
If Marquez becomes the new Rossi, then it's the death knell of MotoGP for me.

M1M - Unregistered

September 18, 2012 5:58 PM

Talentfan - Unlike Rossi, I don't get the impression that Marc Marquez is popular outside his home country and I can't see that changing much, whether 'groomed' by Dorna or not. While he's certainly talented, rightly or wrongly, people resent the advantages he's been given as he seems devoid of charisma and his attitude after causing crashes throughout his career hasn't helped either. Personally, however, the only aspect of rider popularity that affects me is the influence it has on the wider popularity of the sport and therefore how much coverage I get to see on television, preferably without ad breaks.

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