MotoGP » Island feat 'may be step too far' for Stoner


'I think it's going to be tough to make it six in a row, but we'll definitely be there, even if they have to duct-tape me to the bike' - Casey Stoner

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HJC - Unregistered

September 22, 2012 4:45 PM

Dave, yep thats right. 5 less championships thasn Rossi. ironically, those 5 extra championships came BEFORE Stoner was in MotoGP. And ask yourself the level of riders that Rossi won his titles against. What does that tell you?

Yes Rossi has more titles. And what does that prove? That hs was a better rider than the riders he was competing agaisnt AT THAT TIME. The here and now has nothing to do with stats from the past.

Head to head, Stoner has acheived far more than Rossi has. FACT.

Hey Rossi struggles to even beat his team mate over the last 2 seasons. Stoner was beating that same team mate on a regular basis and by a huge margin.

This whole Rossi V Stoner 'debate' was all done and dusted the day Rossi threw his leg over the Ducati in late 2010.

Catch Up - Unregistered

September 22, 2012 10:27 AM

Hello Dave.....Look Rossi never competed against a 9 times World Champion come Goat, so dont you think that to be up against someone that is nearly god on a Motorcycle and win 2 World Titles, one on a bike that the all conquering World Champion couldnt ride.
Dont you think this deserves god like statice, I mean who else has done that ???

Dave - Unregistered

September 22, 2012 9:44 AM

...and still 5 less championships in the premier class???

Please provide same analysis for Rossi 2008/2009 as his detractors always say he had the best machines.

Dave - Unregistered

September 22, 2012 9:41 AM

5 agree. 1 disagrees.
Continuing to destroy the myth. In 2007 he won 5 times when he did not have the top average speed. For instance at Donington he was 10th fastest but came 1st. Losail he was 4th fastest but won. Le Mans he was 8th fastest but came 2nd. Valencia he was 4th fastest but came 2nd etc etc. His biggest average top speed advantage was 2.8KMH, about the same as he achieved on the satellite Honda in 2006. At times he was less than 0.5KH faster than the 2nd fastest but still beat them by 10 to 30 seconds.
Posted by WylieCoyote (16 hours ago)


4 agree. 1 disagrees.
I love the continuing rubbish about Stoner winning in 2007 because of this mythical top speed advantage of the Ducati. Obtaining the best top speed is just as much riding skill as bike power. In 2006 Casey was on a Satellite Honda. 2nd ever grand prix and he has the 3rd best average top speed and puts it on pole. Next race he has the 6th fastest top speed but finishes 2nd. Next race he has the 2nd best a

screwloose

September 22, 2012 4:00 AM

If casey goes to v8s he wont be in the main game straight away he will start off in the feeder series for his first year to cut his teeth,and from there who knows what will happen.I for one would love to see him go around in the series if its what he wants to do

Bob Yobbo - Unregistered

September 22, 2012 3:06 AM

Ladies & Gents, I enjoy reading all the comments posted when ever Casey Stoner's name is mentioned. I think his articles probably would get more comments than any other rider currently in the MotoGP championship, does this mean that Casey is the most popular rider at the moment?? With Stoner leaving the series at the end on the year this will hurt MotoGP who will lose a lot of fans, as there are no other Aussie Batlers to replace him. With Stoner gone, the series will become the Lorenzo & Petrosa championship as there is no one else to challange these guys, rememeber the Michael Schumacher show of only a few years ago (boring). Whatever Stoner decides to do in the future, he will put his whole heart into it and will probably win. Best of luck to Stoner and all of his family, you will truley be missed by all.

WylieCoyote

September 22, 2012 2:24 AM

Look at the replays from 2007. He passed on corners about 1/2 of the time. Most passes on the straight were due to slipstream or him coming off the corner better. His team mate didn't seem to have this huge amount of extra power. Casey has always stood the bike up earlier coming onto long straights and hence his top speed, even on the satellite Honda. If the bike didn't handle he wouldn't have finished on the podium or won when he was only 8th or 10th fastest on the straight.

TedG

September 22, 2012 1:48 AM

@WilieCoyote,
It wasn't top speed that Stoner had, it was a much more powerful bike...period. As soon as the he hit a straight he could just drive around ANYONE, it was a thing of beauty, and Stoner used it to perfection. The bike was a pig in the corners and although he had good tires it looked like it was all he could do to keep the thing from pitching him off.

raafrebel - Unregistered

September 21, 2012 10:56 PM

@ Markrus

Its a free contry and i am free to post whatever i like on this forum as long as it does not offend anybody.
I have never said a negative post about anybody. check for yourself, and, markrus, if you are not also proud of your own country,like i am, then get out! there is no room for fools!

WylieCoyote

September 21, 2012 5:34 PM

Continuing to destroy the myth. In 2007 he won 5 times when he did not have the top average speed. For instance at Donington he was 10th fastest but came 1st. Losail he was 4th fastest but won. Le Mans he was 8th fastest but came 2nd. Valencia he was 4th fastest but came 2nd etc etc. His biggest average top speed advantage was 2.8KMH, about the same as he achieved on the satellite Honda in 2006. At times he was less than 0.5KH faster than the 2nd fastest but still beat them by 10 to 30 seconds.

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