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“The bikes are very powerful, more than 250 horsepower, so we have to take care of those things” - Jorge Lorenzo.

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Damien IE - Unregistered

September 28, 2012 1:50 PM

@ TalentFan

spot on

all the rider has to do is brake and lean then just open everything full and electronics do the work compensating / masking skill
How else would the last of the 250cc boys (Lorenzo Pedrosa) be instantly fast on the 4 strokes - reason electrnocis as not many made the jump to 500cc's and were at all competetive

NO GPS or other aid that changes maps depending on where you are on the track.

ONE setup for the entire lap and go from there

the show was the powersliding and control = skill of the rider but thats long been covered up, sadly so

shamarone

September 28, 2012 2:32 PM

re: "The immediate purpose of the ECU 'offer' is to boost the competitiveness of the privateer CRT class"

something it won't do. CRT bikes are inferior on a MECHANICAL level. complex software won't make a slow bike fast anymore than loading the latest 64 bit version of windows on an old POS computer is suddenly going to make it run better. if you haven't (first) sorted your hardware...? then you're like all the other genuises out here running around with their "cart" in front of their "horse" unable to figure out why their sh!%t ain't working...? can't fix stupid... not with ones and zeros anyway.

CRT - Unregistered

September 28, 2012 2:41 PM

@ TalentFan,

I wasn't saying your argument was not valid. Just wanted to let you know that GPS based tracking was banned but the techs found a way around it. I agree with what you are saying.

Much of the electronics are used to program the fuel mapping/engine braking to keep the wheels inline and allow the bike to last race distance using the limited fuel they have.

@ Damien IE

If all the rider had to do was what you described everyone would be equal. Get real. Did it ever occur to you that the reason they are winning is because they have talent?

shamarone

September 28, 2012 2:58 PM

re: "I think we have to see if we still have the same safety on the bikes, because now we avoid a lot of highside crashes - riders being thrown up in the air - and maybe with standard electronics the bikes would be more dangerous."

okay and how do we "see"...? do we wait for a rider to shatter their ankle into a million bits and be placed on the disabled list like what just happened to stoner...? this is not a "maybe" scenario. again, we just added 200cc's to the prototype formula. going in the OPPOSITE direction in regards to the electronics (no if, ands, or buts)... YES, will be more dangerous. you went into a turn at laguna with the TC accidentally off on your M1 and the damn thing couldn't keep the pointy end into the wind...? and that was an 800. :rolleyes:

CRT - Unregistered

September 28, 2012 3:38 PM

@ YES, will be more dangerous. you went into a turn at laguna with the TC accidentally off on your M1 and the damn thing couldn't keep the pointy end into the wind...? and that was an 800.

Posted by shamarone

It's one thing to know that the electronics should be working, and another to know they are not working.
Had he known it was disabled he would have not highsided himself to the moon. You act as if they remove the electonics no one will know how to ride a bike.


Tooteez - Unregistered

September 29, 2012 11:12 AM

Well Dorna I think you've found the ideal solution. Control everything. Look at what the Spanish have done to their economy,they have really fokd it and now you've got Carmello and his crew of Intellectual Misfits messing about with MotoGP. I've followed GP racing since 1964 and enjoyed it to the utmost, through all the ups and downs, good times sad times but never has it looked such a DISMAL FUTURE. The Spantalian Championship is NOT for me. I truly believe Casey has made a very wise decision, like him I wont be around next year. Thank you Carmello. cARMELLO

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