MotoGP » Moto2: Espargaro wins in Aragon, Redding third


Pol Espargaro wins at Aragon while Marc Marquez, Scott Redding and Andrea Iannone fight to the line for second.

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pcxmac - Unregistered

September 30, 2012 4:15 PM


you do not have to have the fastest top speed to get from point a to point b the fastest. If you ever watch drag racing you will notice many slower cars actually end up with a faster top speed at the end. Its clear from the tv that he pulls on everyone else but when anyone else tries to get near his draft he just pulls away.

the fact that Marc can sit up less than a couple hundred meters off the corner to gauge how much faster his bike is should be a real telling sign. He holds back a lot in the race because last year it was beyond obvious, now he saves it for the last turn/straight, or when it really matters, its just as obvious, but the fanboys love a winner, even if he will do anything to win, like taking people out.

petrolbonce

September 30, 2012 4:25 PM

At high speeds the aero package plays a huge part. As does ramming on the air intakes. I know some have suggested that the exhaust could make that much difference, but really at this level the difference between a good exhaust and an excpetional one would be a couple of horsepower at most. And even then you'd probably find what you gain on peak you'd lose elsewhere in the rev range.

What would be interesting would be seeing drag race between various entrants over a mile or two. Remember you're not often dealing with outright top speed on a race circuit. Acceleration up to a point is key. Could it be that Marquez team have set their bike up on the exhaust for a little more midrange? That could net them more acceleration in the first place and then good ramming and aerodynamics would make the difference on top speed.

Don't underestimate the difference an aero package can make. We once got 2mph extra just by changing the seat on a 125.

Ivor Bueb - Unregistered

September 30, 2012 8:03 PM

Every time Marquez blasted past Iannone on the straight then Iannone beat him on the brakes into the next turn. Marquez seems to mess most corners up then make ground up on the straight. The engines are supposedly controlled. Even taking into account that Marquez is pretty light he seems to have gained some massive advantage..

Sweeble - Unregistered

October 01, 2012 2:09 AM

All they have to do is put a rider + bike minimum weight limit in place and then we wouldn't need to endlessly have this debate about MM's performance. We all know that he's good, but it's hard to gauge his performance against a rider like Scott when he has an automatic advantage.

motogphelper - Unregistered

October 01, 2012 6:25 AM

Funny how you have Spanish organisers,who write Spanish rules & a lot if Spanish races & oh yes guess what Marquez & espargaro never get their bikes check by the scrutiny team. It's all about how much $ a rider can bring to dorma that decides who wins

CRT - Unregistered

October 01, 2012 12:48 PM

I'll have to find the article but I believe it's on motomatters. IIRC they inspect the top five bikes every race. I cannot remember if they have caught anyone cheating or not (I don't believe they have).


M1M - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 2:44 AM

Interesting comment from Iannone on gpone, (translated from Italian), which shows he also thinks Marquez has a better engine although, ironically, that's also what Elias thought of Iannone's bike in the first year of Moto2.

"I give my all, right to the end, but like yesterday, I can't do more. Compared to Marquez we are suffering in the engine department, negating every pass as he pulls away from me. It's been like this all year, even though it's said that he is even lighter (than me). The team always does its best but it's not easy. I can't wait to get to (the post season tests at) Valencia and begin working for the future."

M1M - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 2:52 AM

Just to be clear, it doesn't necessarily mean he thinks Marquez has a better engine but that literally "we are suffering at the level of the engine". This COULD be taken to include the ram air intake and exhaust system but the implication seems to be something more.

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