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"We're very excited to have the two top motorcycle road racing series under one roof" - Carmelo Ezpeleta, Dorna.

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shamarone

October 03, 2012 6:49 PM

re: "The "owners" of Moto GP and WSB have 2 successful businesses. Both generate independent income streams that they will want to maximise.... by making the classes more popular with manufacturers, teams and fans..... through closer, cheaper racing! They will not want to merge the classes and lose half their revenues."

if done right, they won't lose half their revenues. the solution is DOUBLING ticket prices. that's right, DOUBLE. this is top drawer motorcycle racing, not a BOGO (buy one get one free) sale at payless. though i'm sure there will be no shortage of people holding fast to that mentality. if were lucky, this will weed out the devaluers... the bottom feeders.

lee - Unregistered

October 03, 2012 7:44 PM

Shamarone - you make alot of sense there. though i was at wsb silverstone last two years and at nurburgring in 2010. I didnt find wsb was good value or well organised. i also experienced the crowds to be fairly low and not reflecting a popular or succesfull series.
Watching the coverage on the usually good eurosport i must also point out the italian tv pictures and coverage is woeful, constantly focusing on the front running pair or the aprillia or bmw garages when excellent racing is happening midpack. wsb race
direction has also been found to be amateurish this season at more than one meeting.
Credit to the dorna tv coverage, i have viewed alot of the support race stuff via red button and find it excellent.

Grumpy - Unregistered

October 03, 2012 7:55 PM

If WSB is so good how come no one watches it apart from here in the UK. Check out the main stand in portimao. According to something I read the other day Motogp is the third most watched sport on TV(according to Red Bull I believe ) after football and f1. I personally love MotoGp but I also like all other forms of racing so no axe to grind. The best riders by far and the best bikes and if you think any differently then please explain why 2 old GP riders have won the last two or three WSB championships when they couldn't win Motogp. Great riders they may be but not as great as one or two others and where does this put the Brits in WSB. They're good as well but not world beaters.

RSMick

October 03, 2012 8:14 PM

Spot on Grumpy, its everywhere the crowds are down to crazy levels in WSB, Donington and Silverstone were embarassing. The race organisation terrible and as I said the most professional team in the paddock seems Cresent and we all know why.
Shamoron, its been tried, bike racing is a minority sport in attendance levels except in Spain. You will always have people like me who are passionate about it and pay whatever to see it (not WSB though the live show is awful) but that is not what the sport needs, it needs new attendees and new viewers. F1 charge a fortune to watch in comparison and the racing isn't that exciting track side, but the whole event is. Motogp is getting there the weekend show is good, a lot more going off than just the racing and Silverstone seem to do it very well.

shamarone

October 03, 2012 8:19 PM

re: "I read the other day Motogp is the third most watched sport on TV(according to Red Bull I believe ) after football and f1."

let me help you out. the stat they gave was 1 billion people (billion with a B) tune in on any given sunday... or basically 1/7th the planet's population...!!! yeah right, talk about straining credulity.

shamarone

October 03, 2012 8:28 PM

re: "Spot on Grumpy, its everywhere the crowds are down to crazy levels in WSB, Donington and Silverstone were embarassing."

and mugello wasn't...? see, you guys are getting sidetracked by the usual WSB vs. MGP nonsense. this is EXACTLY why bridgepoint has begun the process of "associating" the properties... to offset what YOU/WE the consumer have been doing.

re: "Shamoron, its been tried, bike racing is a minority sport in attendance levels"

uhhh, ya think...?

lee - Unregistered

October 03, 2012 8:43 PM

Shama. not having a go just taking your point further. im a racing fan and have seen all attendances down across the calender. look at the miller or qatar attendance, exactly.
bsb seem to have a good format but i dont like the showdown. also single bike rule makes mixed drying wet track conditions a farce.
wsb is expensive at 50 quid for silverstone eace day. on this years experience i wont go again.

shamarone

October 03, 2012 8:45 PM

re: "F1 charge(s) a fortune to watch"

more accurately charges a fortune... then RECEIVES a fortune.

translation: people have more than enough disposable income to afford a higher ticket price. those that say they don't are either A. lying...? or B. lack basic money management skills...? (ie. don't know how to budget and save) i'm going with the latter. get this, my nephew's single F1 ticket to COTA cost more than my ENTIRE TRIP cross country to indy (ticket, rental car, gas, tolls, hotel, etc). double the price of a MotoGP/WSBK ticket and you can take the savings to DISNEY WORLD...!!!

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