MotoGP » MotoGP and World Superbikes brought together


"We're very excited to have the two top motorcycle road racing series under one roof" - Carmelo Ezpeleta, Dorna.

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allrevvedup - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 11:11 PM

@ jumbobet

What gives you the idea that either MotoGP or WSBK is the bigger more successful entity?

Both MotoGP & WSBK have the same problems with teams under severe financial pressures and facing difficult choices if they wish to remain racing of any form. Take the Liberty racing team in WSBK they started the season with fully funded plans in place but have a very real risk that they will not make the end of the season. BMW have announced they are leaving WSBK as a full factory team and will instead only remain offering factory support to a team.

By the company that owns both series choosing to bring them under joint control they can work towards defining each series instead of allowing them to compete against each other.

If you want to point to something successful don't point at WSB point at BSB this now has full grids with teams on a waiting list for entries and all this after taking a brave decision to ban electronics & massively slash costs.

Wolfy35

October 02, 2012 11:24 PM

@ there there now

"Superbikes are faster than CRT & cheaper"??

Faster yes, Cheaper HELL NO!!!

A CRT MotoGP bike is slower because MotoGP has engine limitations, even with an extra engine allowance meaning CRT's get 12 engines for a year they are slower because they have to be de-tuned to a degree to make them last that long.
WSB engines last 1 race MAXIMUM. On a race weekend top teams will use up to 4 engines depending on how much track time they get. A brand new engine is used for qualifying and another one for the race. Even lower ranked teams will use at least 2 new engines with the qualifying engine from the previous race used during free practice.

Sad fact is that for a top team WSB is significantly more expensive than a MotoGP CRT.

The Bad Guy - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 11:46 PM

First thing Dorna will want to do is slow down WSBKs and make it more like BSB & AMA,The cost of running a WSBK Team is almost as much as running CRT bikes in motogp and in some instances the Superbikes perform better.

jumbobet - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 11:53 PM

@allrevedup

i simply said motogp is bigger and declining, because it is, and that wsbk is growing (in terms of followers and race quality), because it is.

obviously both have their financial problems... - and that's the reason why in business takeovers or mergers are agreed and made.

bladeboy - Unregistered

October 02, 2012 11:57 PM

Add the number of Motogp rounds to WSB rounds. Divide by two and run each meeting with two Motogp/WSB races per round. Ditch CRT and allow full super bike spec bikes to race albeit with overall podium as well as individual. WSB bikes get double points or some other handicap system.

Cost savings sorted. Closer racing sorted. One undisputed champion sorted.

Moi - Unregistered

October 03, 2012 12:02 AM

Dorna won't merge the series as every potential sponser knows the more screen time the better and thats what you have with 2 race series for maximum exposure.

But costs will need to come down so it'll most likley be a scalling back of WSB bikes to a level maybe on par with BSB or even closer to stock but with electronics limited to the stock ECU's as fitted to bikes you and I can buy - a Win-Win situation for buyers of new bikes and teams looking to fund a season.

MotoGP I'm should stay prototype but they'll ditch the electronics to save those costs (which are considerable atm) given they've taken the 1st step towards a std ECU like in F1 which will then in a couple of years once its mandatory be able to outlaw rider aids. Another Win-Win for us as closer racing, still prototype and after 10+ years of rider aid development we'll be in for a treat as the worlds top riders ride 230bhp bikes without help

miffy - Unregistered

October 03, 2012 12:03 AM

Merge them together to the same weekends but different events. That way I can buy a ticket and feel like I'm getting my moneys worth because right not Moto GP is over too fast and then you go home. I want to have a BBQ with some beers and make it a day out.

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