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“We think that a championship derived from production bikes that is using 39 engines during one season, and in MotoGP you are using six - to be honest it's not very correct” - Carmelo Ezpeleta, Dorna.

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TedG

October 11, 2012 11:29 PM

The romantic idea that 2 strokes would save the day is not very realist. NO ONE loves two strokes more than me. I have owned everything from Yamaha Twin Jet 100s (YL1) to Kawasaki 750 triples (H2). I just got done building a Flat tracker out of a 400 Penton/KTM. But the 990s were handing the 500s their asses, not so much in acceleration but in top speed. By a pretty big margin. It is hard to get the two stroke to rev much higher, the transfer of the gasses and the expansion chambers are limited by physics. 4 strokes can dump their exhaust and all is good, 2 strokes need back pressure, not just any back pressure but timed back pressure. Anyway the 4 strokes just needed lighter valves, better springs (aside from Ducati who has a positive valve closure, hence the first 800 Duc being so fast) to increase their rev/power. Anyway how would 2 stroke development get to the street where most places have banned them?

tm - Unregistered

October 11, 2012 11:50 PM

Locks46+91+38&35, motogp is the F1 of motorcycle racing. You're not supposed to be able to just hand over a bag of cash for a bike and be competitive. There are other classes for that. Motogp is about designing and building your own race bike and racing it. And in this day and age, you have to be a manufacturer with deep pockets to do so.

It's not unlike the Le Mans series. You can go and buy a Porsche GT3 and participate in the GT class, but if you want to race the LMP1 you have to built yourself a car.

Perhaps motogp has become too expensive. But turning it into a production series doesn't fix the problem. It just changes the series into something it is not while hoping the public doesn't catch on by keeping the name.

Liam48

October 11, 2012 11:55 PM

@Sheene7 very good point I would love to see those screaming 2 stroke 500's back.

I look at lap times from this years Czech Republic Grand Prix & qualifying. Pettrucci's CRT was 5 tenths slower than Max Biaggi's pole position on his 500 YZF Yamaha in 2001 & 5 tenths slower than Valentino Rossi's Nastro Azzurro Honda 500 race record in 2001. I mean there are 11 years apart and for 1 CRT to be consistently slower than the old 500's & the rest of the CRT's weren't much faster. Bottom line is CRT & MotoGP is a joke. I hope Dorna don't KILL WSBK!

tommys nuts - Unregistered

October 12, 2012 12:39 AM

It is a tough situation. To be completely fair, the racing has been poor ever since the 800s started. I was really surprised to see the racing hasn't improved since the return of the 1000s. I think its a tire issue.. The tires are so Perfect, there is only one way to ride them so they need "perfect" electronics to work with the tires and to optimize the power and gas savings. If they back off on electronics to a decent level and change out the tires for a much softer tire.. the racing will be fun to watch. Honda will always find a way to exploit every loop hole so the rich teams will rise to the top. but racing will be better.. now how do you make it cheaper? I dont know.. I THINK THE SECRET IT TO MAKE IT EXCITING FIRST. because people will pay if its exciting.. OH YEA AND BRING THE MOTO2 AND MOTO3 TO LAGUNA SECA GOD DAMMIT

undo - Unregistered

October 12, 2012 1:33 AM

@Locks46,

Ezpeleta has made no secret about wanting Rossi on a top ride for next year and his preferential treatment of Rossi is well documented.

What's wrong with people stating facts? And why every time someone does it automatically triggers a Rossi fan to say blasphemy?

robsee - Unregistered

October 12, 2012 2:59 AM

A couple of points,
Vilas says he wants to watch bikes he can go and buy.
Well Vilas, you can. Its called Superstock.
So if we dumb down the Superbikes will we be seeing Superstock disappear?
On the matter of attendances, I remember going to Donington in 97 when the crowd was a massive 30000.
Will it go back to that figure when Rossi retires?
I think so.

TheBaron - Unregistered

October 12, 2012 4:03 AM

Ezpeleta has some tough decisions to make. If costs are not controlled now, Bridegeport Capital will have zero return on its motorcycle racing investments. It is clear that neither series, MotoGP nor SWC, is sustainable. Despite much closer, more exciting racing in SWC, the crowds stay away. But they flock to watch the much less closely contested MotoGP. What does this tell us about modern motorcycle racing fans?

dadparent - Unregistered

October 12, 2012 7:29 AM

Technical rules will not help and kill creativity. The problem must be solved by opening the way to get the machines and technics. Nowadays there is no way to get a GP machine not new not used. So make a rule that you can buy the top 3 machines for a realistic price, say 100.000. Believe me the competition will be back. The factory teams will put there machines back ? Maybe, but the will return with racers out of the box in the shops , like a decade ago with the twostrokes.

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