MotoGP » Stoner: I almost didn't race


'I've been trying to avoid all the wet sessions that I can, so I can stay in the best possible shape and dry riding is the best chance for us' - Casey Stoner

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stonecold - Unregistered

October 22, 2012 1:06 PM

@TETLY TEA BAGS.
here are some more stupid questions for u.
Why did Rossi leave yamaha.?
Why did Stoner leave Ducati?
Why did Spies leave Yamaha?
Why did Foggy leave Ducati?
Why did Rossi leave Ducati?
Why did the cow jump over the moon?
Why did foggy go back to Ducati?

True Fan - Unregistered

October 22, 2012 2:15 PM

@kiwibob - interesting post, but really...in MotoGP today, a rider can only be truly great with charisma. It's why Stoner is not great. It's why Lorenzo is not great. Pedrosa - not great. With charisma, world titles are earned and respected. Without charisma, world titles are invalid, and tarnished due to other factors (the best bike, or unfair circumstances). Without charisma, there is no respect due.

It used to be 80% rider, 20% bike. It was primitive. But happily, we've moved on, and the criteria has evolved. It's now all about charisma. As we speak, Dorna is formulating the rules for 2013. Control tyres will stay, but only for non-charismatic riders. Special ultra performance tyres will be flown in on race day for the rider with the most charisma. There will be a control ECU, but it will have special provisions - kind of like KERS, but instead of storing energy, it limits it when it detects a more charismatic rider nearby. That will help the championship.

Your ideas are nice, and

True Fan - Unregistered

October 22, 2012 2:16 PM

@kiwibob - cont...

Your ideas are nice, and even quaint. But MotoGP is bigger than this. Charisma is bigger than this. If you watch MotoGP and don't use charisma as your key assessment criterion, you're missing the bigger picture.

Tetley

October 22, 2012 3:29 PM

" Lorenzo was on his way to crashing when he panicked and put his finger up in a gesture of surrender. Posted by WylieCoyote"
The live TV coverage showed that JLo had indicated the race should be stopped well before he had to make that amazing save.

Tetley

October 22, 2012 3:40 PM

" After being handed a winning bike Rossi has turned the Ducati into a slow joke that only just beats the CRT's. Posted by Rossi, exposed, slow, and owned"
I'm happy to listen to alternative opinions, but not those which are based on inaccuracies.
The bike VR inherited from CS was nothing like the one which CS won with. And subsequently the other factories improved faster and better than Ducati did.
And ( I've said it before ... ) if the bike was so good, why did CS leave Ducati ? The answer is because he could see it could not repeat its successes.

Tetley

October 22, 2012 3:49 PM

"Pedrosa has learnt a lot from Stoner you can see that in his riding style now. .. Posted by Wert"
Stoner learned a lot from Rossi - Rossi brought the dangly leg-out style to MotoGP and now CS and many others use it.
"I could see him possibly being employed by Honda as an adviser to Marc Marquez .. Posted by Wert"
Please no! MM is a bright enthusiastic cheerful youth with WC potential and the last thing he needs is a depressive for a role model.

True Fan - Unregistered

October 22, 2012 4:03 PM

@Tetley "The bike VR inherited from CS was nothing like the one which CS won with. And subsequently the other factories improved faster and better than Ducati did.
And ( I've said it before ... ) if the bike was so good, why did CS leave Ducati ? The answer is because he could see it could not repeat its successes."

Stoner won 3 of the last five races on the bike he handed Rossi, and was second at Valencia, and IIRC posted the fastest lap there. Two days later, Rossi showed that he couldn't ride it anywhere near as quick as Stoner. He realised right then and there that the bike was a long way from where he could win with it.

Stoner left Ducati because the management treated him poorly. Once Livio left, it was obvious he would want Stoner, and no-one else in Ducati management listened to him. He told them what the problems were, but he didn't have enough charisma. They didn't need to fix the bike, they just needed charisma.

Charisma is expensive though. They got 30 million worth. Now

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