MotoGP » 'Decent' pace gives Rossi hope


'I'm pretty consistent. I did a 1.31.7, a decent time, with a tyre that had about 18 laps on it, so that's not bad as we approach the race' - Valentino Rossi

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True Fan - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 4:43 PM

Never before in the history of motorcycle racing has anyone been paid so much for delivering so little.

He got on a race-winning bike in Valencia 2010 and was immediately about 2 seconds off the pace. This weekend, he's more than 2 seconds off the pace.

The great bike developer. He's had at least 50 times more mid-season upgrades than Stoner or any other previous Ducati rider ever got... to his requirements. But he still can't achieve what other riders have achieved with it.

In 2007 it had an "unfair straight line speed" advantage. It still has it. He's 0.006 seconds ahjead of a CRT.

Next year he faces Lorenzo. I pity Rossi's fans. Still blindly believing the myth.

80% clown antics, 20% PR

benito - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 4:44 PM

to all guys who tipe here about Valentinos development of motorbike:first, try to understand that rider is not an enginer. Sow rider dont make parts, and even bike setup. OK? In this level of sport, these days is very, very importante. Parts mast be manufactured very fast, and rider can only tell his feelings of the bike, thats all and thats will be direction of development. However Ducati is small maufacture, and they cannot in theese novadays be competitive. Bike is uncompetitive. And is no deal who is on it, Rossi, Stoner, HAyden, BAutista who else, nobody will win on this bike even Casey.

Codger

October 27, 2012 4:46 PM

It always puzzles me why people want Rossi (and by association, Ducati and Nicky) to fail.
It also puzzles me why people are obsessed with trying to prove who is better out of Stoner and Rossi.
If you compare the stats of where the 4 original 'Aliens' finished in the Championships over the years it is neither of them! It works out that Jorge is the most successful, Pedrosa is next, Stoner is 3rd, and Rossi, with his disasterous stint on the Ducati, is last.
Dani hasn't won but is consistant.
Casey had 2 good years.
Jorge is the highest with a win and consistency.
Rossi is last because of the Ducati, but a double winner.


Any chance that Vilas could be given a little respect?
By his own admission his English is poor but the guy has passion about Bike racing, and it shines through.
A number of English speakers on here have difficulty with spelling and grammar and punctuation, me included.

Pam

October 27, 2012 4:49 PM
Last Edited 639 days ago

Nice post Codger. Rossi has not been the dominate rider since Pedrosa, Lorenzo and Stoner came on the scene. Lorenzo and Pedrosa are clearly up there and if not for injuries Dani might have been WC. I thought Ducati had finally turned the corner but they are not even close. Next year will be interesting.

Codger

October 27, 2012 5:03 PM
Last Edited 639 days ago

@ True Fan...You like to castigate Rossi, as we all know. Sorry to be pedantic but you are saying the 2007 Ducati had an advantage in top speed. It did but it was the fierce acceleration that was the main advantage. Today it has neither, in fact the Works bikes are often slower than the Satellite bikes, on both accounts.
Rossi is not 'overpaid' to win on the bike, he is 'overpaid' to help Ducati to turn it in to a winning bike that anyone can ride (look at the Hondas and Yamahas, they've got it right). That task hasn't finished yet, Ducati bosses admit they haven't given everything asked for (and given stuff that wasn't asked for and didn't work)
There are still developments in the pipeline which Nicky says he is confident about, Dovi too I would imagine. Something made him want to ride 'the poisoned chalice'

Codger

October 27, 2012 5:23 PM
Last Edited 639 days ago

@ Pam...thanks. Forgive me, hasn't Rossi put in back to back Championships since the other 3 have been on the scene?
I support a few riders, Rossi among them, however my interest is mainly in seeing the Ducati becoming more successful. Casey was special and gave them a lot of wins I know, but finishing 4th and Nicky worse in the Title hunt was not enough for them. Rossi, and therefore Nicky too, haven't improved on that and I fervently hope that at least they are on the right path now. Time will tell.
I have noticed that the current riders have stayed fairly static over the season while the Satellite riders have gone down hill. Would you say that the Ducati IS better although hasn't kept up with the progress of the Hondas and Yams, while the Satellite bikes haven't improved at all? Something has changed, the Works riders don't fall off as often as they used to.
I agree about Dani, I'd like to see him win the Title this year.

Sam - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 5:26 PM

Question!!

Stoner and lorenzo are better than Rossi?? Yes??!! ok!!

Then how come they couldn't defend their title while riding the BEST bike and rossi on the worst bike???

lol you failed!! They are not better! end of the story !!

Pam

October 27, 2012 5:39 PM
Last Edited 639 days ago

For sure Codger. My point was that prior to those 3, Rossi was really the only guy that could dominate a season. There weren't 4 aliens in the early mid 2000's. Just one, Rossi. Now there are 4, and it's not so easy. A real pity Stoner is retiring.

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