MotoGP » 'Decent' pace gives Rossi hope


'I'm pretty consistent. I did a 1.31.7, a decent time, with a tyre that had about 18 laps on it, so that's not bad as we approach the race' - Valentino Rossi

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Dr GP - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 6:07 PM

@True Fan
Ironic name really isn't it, when it seems that your love of the sport consists of watching the qualifying thinking more about how you can bait people on here with your BS than because you enjoy it?
What you conveniently twist and forget in your posts is that Rossi is leaving Ducati because he has acknowledged he cannot get a winning performance out of it and is also fed up the factory can't design, manufacture and deliver the changes he was bought in to give them feedback on quickly or effectively.

John - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 6:18 PM

Everyone says how great Casey is around Phillip Island and he is.....but....a certain Italian finished on the podium every year from 2001 to 2010!
He won five races in succession from 2001 - 2005 as well as two 2nd's and three 3rd places.
Sadly, Casey has decided not to stick around in MotoGP long enough to see if he could better those stats!

The truth hurts. - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 6:39 PM

Codger.
I dont want to add fuel to the flames,but to answer the Rossi/Stoner debate and why so much bad feeling exists between both camps.It all started in 2007,when this upstart Stoner had the audacity to beat Rossi to the world title.For that reason and that reason alone,he instantly became public enemy number one in Rossi fans eyes and since he has gone on to beat Rossi more times than Rossi has beaten him,the hatred of Stoner has only intensified.Why do you think the Rossi fans are so happy to see Stoner retire?
I think we both know the answer to that dont we?

trummy200 - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 6:41 PM

I am afraid Rossi has lost some credibility - Lets go back to when he joined Ducati. Stoner had signed for Honda leaving them with a winning bike. Hayden just could not live with him, now the two works riders seem pretty even but despite new Frames and various other upgrades are still off the pace, with Hayden running in abut the same position now as then. Ducati may have been suffering from some disillusionment that their bike was up there with the Hondas and Yamahas! If they could turn the clock back then no way would they signed Rossi, and no way would Rossi and Burgess have made disparaging remarks about Stoner! Next year could be interesting to see how Rossi does, but maybe his time has passed.

The truth hurts. - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 7:09 PM
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Trummy200.
How right you are.When Rossi signed for Ducati there was a tumult of fanfare from his fans as to how he was going to give Stoner a riding lesson on the Ducati he was never going to forget.He took Burgess with him to put Rossi on the top step of the podium.After all,Stoner wasnt riding the Ducati hard enough to get useful data!
Oh dear,it didnt quite turn out that way though did it.A few races into 2011 told Rossi how good Stoner had been all along.Ever since then the excuses have come thick and fast despite the shed loads of cash Ducati have spent.Has Rossi lost credibility?
You better believe it!

True Fan - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 7:13 PM

@Codger
I don't actually like to castigate Rossi. But some of his fans are ridiculous. Notwithstanding, he has made some ludicrous claims, and I think he's now suffering the consequences.

Firstly at Ducati, where he has discovered something of what Stoner faced there. Next it will be at Yamaha, where he won't get the "special" treatment he used to get.

The other point you make is quite incorrect. Rossi is paid to win races. He isn't a bike developer. He is not an engineer at all. He gives feedback. It isn't better than any other rider's feedback, and it certainly isn't better than Stoner's. You have to ride the bike to the limit to give good feedback. And as Stoner sadi, you have to ridde it how it wants to be ridden, not how you want to ride it. Rossi has not done that yet on the Ducati. Despite wholesale design changes, they have not improved the bike at all. Rossi started on it 2 seconds off the pace, and it's still at 2 seconds.

His Yamaha salary package is much closer to his wo

True Fan - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 7:23 PM

cont...
His Yamaha salary package is much closer to his worth than his Ducati package. Frankly, I think he was embarrassed when they offered to pay him more money after he had failed so completely. I really wonder about the management at Ducati. For quite a while I thought Rossi should stick it out and make it work there, or just win a couple of races, but I think a cut and run is better now.

Anyway, he'll probably beat De Puniet tomorrow, but I'd like to see RDP win that battle. He should have a proper bike instead of a stupid CRT.

billace - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 7:32 PM

My favorite thing of all is how history is rewritten to suit the situation by so many.

Back in 2010 Rossi was supposed to be fighting for wins and was going to dessimate the field once he had his chance on the "rocketship" Ducati. When it was obvious that he didn't have the sack to push the Ducati he was really hired to "develop a bike everyone can ride" Well he failed on both counts...

Can't get the bike on the front row
Can't turn a single fast lap
Can't even see teh front 3 finish a race unless he crashed out

As far as being a developer goes...

Ducati just as far off pace as the day he got on it
All Ducati's are consistently slow
The entire design philosophy was scrapped and now everyone is lost
He never developed the cojones to find the limit of what he was given

Now he'll be back to Yamaha worse off then if he just stayed and accepted being #2 to Jorge.

SIQOTSA - Unregistered

October 27, 2012 7:37 PM

Omg, are you lot not bored of the endless debate on who is best of the modern era, There has never been a true comparison, different bikes,spec, hp, tyres etc. The Only BS myth out there at the moment is that Stoner could jump on the duc and win, he had big problems in his last season at Ducati which been conveniently forgotten.

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