MotoGP » Valentino Rossi: 'It will be a strange weekend'


“It will be a strange weekend that should be challenging for a few different reasons, but we'll do our best” – Valentino Rossi.

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Ausrossi

November 07, 2012 3:10 AM

People always go on about the two seconds slower on the same bike. The bike was completely foreign to him of course he was slower. And as for testing showing how things would be. The ducati barely changed all the others were bringing in completely new designs.

I still maintain that following the trend Stoner's wins on the Ducati would have diminished further (to zero in 2012) as Honda and Yamaha made an even bigger leap over Duc than in the 800cc era since 2007, and his DNFs increased and resulting in similar WC EOY positions in 2011 and 12 like Rossi.

I think Rossi probably dogged it a bit in 2012 especially but seeing things like Laguna this year, and Sic in 2011 probably left him thinking is this worth injuring myself over and I think most agree that Duc had the starts align in 2007 and will never see that again unless they get outside help.

thomps000

November 07, 2012 3:14 AM

A great bike will make a good rider look great. A bad bike will make a great rider look bad. But a great bike will never make a bad rider look good. It's (almost) as much the dedication to the machine as the machine itself. 60% machine, 40% rider in my opinion.

jac-jac - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 4:13 AM

So much argument. I enjoyed how Doohan and Rossi did not start at the front but stalk those in front 1 by 1 during race, and took them at corners. And I also remember Stoner can overtake ALL during his prime in straights like cutting through butter but then loose his position again at corners, how to explain that, people ? Now with traction control, all those fun are not there anymore and you guys still keep on arguing .......

Tesla - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 4:22 AM

Dave Smithers

"It's such a shame that Rossi has failed with Ducati. To 'only' do as well as Hayden is just not good enough for a guy who was once at the top."

Rossi failed? Not him, it's Ducati which is failing him.

"The fault is ours alone, Valentino has nothing to do" - said Filippo Preziosi. Remember this?


"Id like to know the truth as to whether Rossi has been trying his best or not though. He has admitted himself to not pushing to the limit, which i find totally absurbed for a top level racer, let alone to publically admit it."

Watch the races, especially Eurosport if you could. Commentators said that Valentino is trying very hard etc so many times. BTW, again, try to read that Ducati Head said in many interviews on motomatters etc

Tesla - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 4:30 AM

Dave Smithers - part 2

"He is employed to race and put in 100%, and if he is seriously saying he has not been doing that, then Ducati should have given him the boot a long time ago in my opinion."

Trust me, Ducati is smarter than you. All prejudiced people should remember this. Ducati knows the problem is NOT with Rossi.

"I respect Rossi for what he has acheived in the past, but no one can ignore his failure for the last 2 years."

NO, you don't respect Rossi. You don't know him either so forget about deciphering his 2 years saga at Ducati.

"I try not to bring up Stoner in Rossi threads and vice versa, but these 2 seasons of failure for Rossi, different bike or not, being more or less on level terms with Hayden, proves that he is not even close to the level of Stoner. Great rider yes, but clearly not the greatest that people thought he was."

Hayden level what? This is one more perspective or rather clue: why couldn't Hayden win a single race until now should shed some light on D

Tesla - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 4:31 AM

Dave Smithers - part 3

"I try not to bring up Stoner in Rossi threads and vice versa, but these 2 seasons of failure for Rossi, different bike or not, being more or less on level terms with Hayden, proves that he is not even close to the level of Stoner. Great rider yes, but clearly not the greatest that people thought he was."

Hayden level what? This is one more perspective or rather clue: why couldn't Hayden win a single race until now should shed some light on Ducati. NOT on Rossi.

And Stoner. He's more or less like Sebastian Vettel, both like to race alone and ahead! BTW latter is humble in many ways, and former doesn't know how to talk! :rolleyes:

herewego - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 8:11 AM

In my opinion it is Ducati that failed Valentino and not the other way round! Ducati have and always will be a law unto themselves and listen to nobody. Their bike is never going to get anywhere unless they get their head out of the sand and scrap whatever it is that they think is their beloved bike's "unique" design and just move on! Next year, when Valentino once again wins races, should rub more salt into what should be by now a very, very deep wound at Ducati, but it wouldn't surprise me if they just carry on regardless and another very good rider's career will bite the dust!!

herewego - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 8:20 AM

Dave Smithers - You obviously know nothing much about Valentino Rossi or you wouldn't have said what you have about him not trying! He might not be pushing the Ducati to it's limit, but he knows what the outcome will be if he does - ask Casey Stoner who crashed more times than enough when he tried! I am actually sick to death of hearing about Casey Stoner on a Ducati!! Casey Stoner had 1 good year on the thing,no matter how many times he won races after it, beacuse he struggles like hell, nearly killing himself in the process. Casey couldn't wait to leave as he had also had enough! Valentino Rossi will not and did not risk his life pushing a pile of sh-te in an attempt to win a race, when the people he was trying to do it for couldn't care less !!! Valentino will prove he is a better rider than Casey Stoner, just wait and see, just wait and see!!

Miffy - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 8:45 AM

Rossi didn't fail Ducati, they failed him and didn't have an answer to his and Hayden's feedback. Top makers like Yamaha and Honda can deliver but Ducati really needs a shuffle up. Maybe Audi will turn them around.

ron - Unregistered

November 07, 2012 9:18 AM

Only strange thing is that you have the neck to show your face after two years distroying a great motorcycles reputation, because you can't ride a real machine.

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