MotoGP » ECU compromise for MotoGP 2014, Moto2 combined weight

Standard ECU compulsory from 2014 - manufacturers to keep their own electronics software, but face four-litre fuel penalty...

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mk1tt16v - Unregistered

November 10, 2012 7:56 PM

i know what you mean about alex but i feel that randy would be ahead by quite a bit if not for DNF's. He really has shown flashes of real pace this year

efi - Unregistered

November 10, 2012 8:02 PM


While it's somewhat true, but let's not forget that this is the biggest CRT team with the highest budget. Around 3 million euros! (1,5 for each rider) That is almost privateer money. (ca. 5 - 7 million)

Not comparable to pretty much any other CRT team which struggles to even pay the riders...

mk1tt16v - Unregistered

November 10, 2012 8:07 PM


i completely agree but my point is that a well funded and organized CRT team has demonstrated this year that they can progress and i think next year the gap will become smaller again

True Fan - Unregistered

November 10, 2012 8:13 PM

These combined weight limits now disadvantage smaller riders. In the smallest category, they make it fairer. The more weight and power the bike has, the less fair the rule becomes.
Heavier riders can put more weight where they want it through the corners, which gives them a massive advantage on the bigger bikes. Heavier riders are also usually stronger too, so they can muscle the bigger bikes, especially when they have less weight to muscle than a smaller rider. The only real advantage the lighter guys had was in accelerating on the straights, and to a lesser extent, braking. Combined weight limits don't make racing fairer, they simply shift skew natural advantages. Next they'll give fuel penalties for talented riders, so that crap riders have a chance too...

Jelly - Unregistered

November 10, 2012 8:17 PM

What is up with Dorna trying to reduce the fuel limit all the time? Surely cost will go up further as factories will try to extract maximum performance from even less fuel?

mk1tt16v - Unregistered

November 10, 2012 8:18 PM

the minimum weight is really needed in moto2 as there is just not enough power in the bikes. weight does not really make that much of difference in corners just where it is. but this is easy to compensate for with set up. The muscle thing isnt true at all it is just technique that steers a motorcycle.just look at dani pedrosa.


November 10, 2012 8:30 PM
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Jelly its a compromise, the factories want the freedom to develope their own system, hardware is not that important but the software is. So if you use your own software then its 20 litres, use the spec software its 24 even if your a factory. This way if Honda want to spend spend spend on software they can, but there is a penalty. If someone wants to save money on software they can and get more fuel allowing them to spend more resource on the chassis.
This may just put a stop to the crazy spending as without lots of algorithms, maintaining high revs for an entire race with less fuel will be very hard. At the same time it gives engineers plenty of challanges.

The Pegasus - Unregistered

November 10, 2012 8:39 PM

Are we ready for a Global Formula Extreme yet? The fastest bikes possible and the bravest of riders on them.
6 racers per year, unlimited power, fuel and tech with no weight limits. Manufacturers can use them for "development" purpose and private teams can shine showing off just what the average man is capable of producing that CAD software may miss.
Ahh! what a wonderful pipe dream. Let's hope I wake up before tomorrows final race of the season, lol

Over the new fuel limit what I find more worrying is the fact that "Engine development will be 'frozen' during the season ". Cutting cost I agree but would that not just mean the best bike at the beginning of the season would stay the best?

I like Nakamoto's suggestion of getting rid of the single tire manufacture. It would mean changing rider performance track by track and bringing some of the excitement back that GP has lost. Bored of only having only 3 different race winners all year !

Doesn't save money but I'm a armchair warrior who cant produce solutions to the cost problem :/

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