MotoGP » Rossi lapped as Ducati era draws to an end


Valentino Rossi's final outing as a Ducati rider is an unhappy one as he can only finish in tenth place, a lap down on Dani Pedrosa.

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number 46 - Unregistered

November 12, 2012 3:57 PM

Rossi is still the king no matter what the experts on this forum write, yes he didnt click with the duc, but that dosent mean he is a fraud or that he,..... , yes rossi ambition out weighted his talent on that duc(it was a mistake he shouldnt left the yamaha in the first place!!! his ego got in the way of course he is 7 times big class champion the people are naming kids after him so of course what do you expect ), he couldnt replicate the riding still or results that Stoner had and for sure Stoner was better on the duc but that dosent mean he cant ride around the problems Rossi adapted to every major change, in this sport you are forgeting that, i hope for his well being it was just the bike, i personally think rossi has changed after mugelo crash. i hope i am wrong we will see soon!! PS. i know he won the race after that, but when you look at him he is not the same guy anymore and 2 years of bad results destroys your head i hope he can recover from this and that he will be competit

number 46 - Unregistered

November 12, 2012 4:00 PM

Suppose Vale had been riding the Yamaha yesterday and Casey the Ducati. In the same conditions how do you think they would have finished?

Laguna Seca part 2 :) just kidding

True Fan - Unregistered

November 12, 2012 4:11 PM

@Tetley Stoner had to change his riding style to ride the Ducati in the first place...The Rossi sycoFANt base claim Rossi is the "greatest of all time", but now you're saying that he can't be expected to adapt to a different style of riding after two (2) whole years?
Hailwood retired in the mid 60s after racing MVs and Honda. 12 YEARS later, he came back and rode an underpowered, understeering Ducati to victory at the IoM TT. Understeer is a scary thing at that circuit.

If Rossi fans maintain this stupid delusion, there needs to be results that defy imagination (Like MtB). After all, the "great" man told us emphatically - 80% RIDER 20% bike. If 20% of the problem is a "dog" what do you call the other 80%?

Tetley

November 12, 2012 4:15 PM

“@Tetley You make it sound like he's a coward, but Rossi is a genius for getting lapped. Posted by True Fan”
We seem to have a misunderstanding. I'm definitely not saying Casey is a coward. None of the riders are. Remember I said “All the MotoGP riders risk injury, permanent disabilities and even death every time they take their bike on track. It would be foolish for them to risk all when there is nothing to gain”. VR46 had nothing to gain by putting himself at risk. Similarly. it appeared to me that Casey was prioritising safety above speed as he had nothing to gain until he saw the prospect of third.
After the race, all the riders are expected to comment on their success or otherwise. The tyres, the weather, the pit stops were all cited as being influences. None of the riders are likely to admit “I intended taking no risks”.
“I wonder what you would have said if Rossi came third.” I'd have said “That's a bloody miracle, but it doesn't change anything for 2012.”

shaken - Unregistered

November 12, 2012 4:16 PM

As it has been said 'The Doctor' has been a fraud. The nickname 'Doctor' has also been the most exaggerating as if he really were this, he wouldve been winning races for Ducati and giving something back. Instead, he leaves them with nothing while he swans off back to Yamaha (who he also left controversially).

number 46 - Unregistered

November 12, 2012 4:26 PM

@Tetley Stoner had to change his riding style to ride the Ducati in the first place...The Rossi sycoFANt base claim Rossi is the "greatest of all time", but now you're saying that he can't be expected to adapt to a different style of riding after two (2) whole years?
Hailwood retired in the mid 60s after racing MVs and Honda. 12 YEARS later, he came back and rode an underpowered, understeering Ducati to victory at the IoM TT. Understeer is a scary thing at that circuit.

If Rossi fans maintain this stupid delusion, there needs to be results that defy imagination (Like MtB). After all, the "great" man told us emphatically - 80% RIDER 20% bike. If 20% of the problem is a "dog" what do you call the other 80%?

yes and rossi rode the honda and yamaha to 7 titles as for the 80% 20% you are referring to burges, but that is not the case, now days so much electronics that with out them you couldnt even ride the machine fast (lap times)!!!!! and rossi is one of the greatest if he is the great

Tetley

November 12, 2012 4:29 PM

@Tetley now you're saying that he can't be expected to adapt to a different style of riding after two (2) whole years?
I didn't say that. I clearly said he'll have to unlearn the techniques he used at Ducati.”
I'm happy to debate with you, True Fan, but I'm getting the impression that you don't actually digest what I write, OR simply you're misquoting me to artificially strengthen your own opinions.
Disagreeing with what I write is fine, but don't condemn me for things I didn't write.

CRT - Unregistered

November 12, 2012 4:30 PM
Last Edited 677 days ago

Wasn't it Rossi who stated that we don't know the true potential of the Ducati because Stoner was not riding it hard enough?

How is that any different now?

The redicule Stoner and Hayden received at Donnington for gambling on the wrong tires was insane. The bashing Stoner took was uncanny. Now here we are with Rossi, and he is somehow congratulated for it.


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