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“Yesterday I was able to do 30 laps on the very wet and the feeling was good. Good to be back, good feeling with the bike” – Valentino Rossi.

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Vilas

November 16, 2012 3:43 PM
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CRT

If Loris was 26 or 27 years old you can bet that to Stoner play with him he would need to puch Harder..lol Like i say before i will not speack for Loris i dunno what he pass to become so bad on the Ducati.. If you wach 2007 results he had qualifis and races that where so bad that i can only say he was injure or somethingh, was like waching Casey on the top 3 and Loris on the 3 last places..lolo somethingh that dont really tell the tru because he also had qualifys where he was better then Casey and also some podiuns and maybe a win like you guys say..

CRT - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 4:12 PM

@ Vilas,

You are now completely grasping at straws.

He was not so good on the Ducati because the Ducati is not the machine you try to make it out to be. It's really not that hard to understand.......err.....nevermind.

Qualifying has what to do with race pace? Oh yeah, nothing.

You cannot provide one shred of evidence that the 2007 Ducati was the best bike on the grid. Not one.

If top speed and acceleration were the only things that were needed to make a championship winning machine Yamaha would NEVER have won a championship.

Keep believing the myth that Ducati was the best bike. I understand you need to believe that otherwise your world would come crashing down.

Vilas

November 16, 2012 4:24 PM

CRT

I allready tell you m8, write a book about Stoner and you call me Fanboy..ehehe After 7 years on Motogp class we have 2 Wc, one im 2007 and other im 2011 that for me is enaught to understand Casey performance, you can bet that i would respect him More if he had win this year but even riding the Honda that was not possible for him, its a pity but Lorenzo was to much for Stoner deal all year, also Pedrosa was clearly a good rival even if Stoner can be faster, like you had say very well been fast is not all..ehehe

CRT - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 4:29 PM

@ Vilas,

Way to dodge the questions again with irrelevant BS.

Lorenzo rode a great championship year, you are correct. He was too much for Stoner or anyone else. Just like in 2010 when Lorenzo was just too much for Rossi. What's your point?

CRT - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 4:30 PM

Oh BTW Villas, in the last seven seasons your hero only has two championships. By your standards you should lose respect for Rossi too.

impartial opinion - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 5:55 PM

TO ME ducati had a huge speed advantage in 2007. yes the desmo engine has generally always been quick but that year the first 800 year the bike had a massive advantage in both excelleration and top speed .it was like they were still running the 990. probably helped by caseys corner exsit speed yes but not because of it.but an equal factor for me was the development programe bridgestone implemented around the new 800 at the time, not exclusively but certainly promminently developing alongside the ducati design

CRT - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 6:24 PM

@ impartial opinion

As stated, Ducati has ALWAYS had a speed advantage.

Bridgestone workked hand in hand very closely with all the factories that supported them. The loyalty they showed bridgestone was a reason for thier objection to providing other riders thier tires.



impartial opinion - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 6:28 PM

but i also believe caseys style generated the necessary amount of heat in the b/stone fronts nesessary for optimum grip (pushing the front with applied rear inertia,in short steering with the rear but more importantly on an understeering bike. applying the power early)that the other riders at the time (all adopting a conventional pitched for/aft power application) couldnt take advantage of . coupled with caseys drive and tallent but more importantly lack of a bench mark (remembering how hard he was on the michelins and how many times he lost the front)the bike suited casey more than anybody else.. because noone else outthere rides the package as hard as he does .so i believe ducatis success is totally down to casey stoner for that reason.

Count Backwards - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 6:32 PM

People make much of the 2007 Ducati and its speed advantage,yet when you remind those people of the simple fact that his team mate that year,riding an identical machine,finished 7th nearly 200 points behind Stoner,they grow a little reticent.Why is this?

CRT - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 6:52 PM

@ impartial opinion

That same riding style was his down fall in 2008 as well. He was riding the bike in a manner neccessary to make it work. The problem was not riding the bike at it's limit, the problem was when he backed off. No rider can push the bike to it's limits for 100% of a race, and when he backed off the front would lose heat and fold.

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