MotoGP » Colin Edwards eyeing FTR-M1 for 2014?

"We don't know what's going to happen in 2014 engine wise, as it looks like Yamaha might be leasing some engines" – Colin Edwards

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November 16, 2012 10:12 AM

All motorsport changed when tobacco advertising was withdrawn, and is still feeling the effect.

Initially, both F1 and MotoGP relied on manufacturers for finance, and that works when the economy is good (remember 2004? Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Ducati, Aprilia, Kawasaki all in MotoGP), but the problem is that half of them pull out when the economy goes tits up and you have the issue we have in MotoGP today - 2 big manufacturers left, still throwing $$$ into it to beat each other, and so if you're not on a factory Honda or Yam you've no chance.

F1 now has a good model, with limited manufacturer teams but keeping the manufacturers involved by supplying engines. It's a bit like the early 90s, with McLaren Honda, Williams Renault, Benetton Ford etc.

I think if MotoGP wants to end this cycle of Honda v Yamaha with occasional Ducati input, it needs to call Honda's bluff when they threaten to pull out, and limit manufacturers to engine suppliers only. If Honda want a factory team, have them a


November 16, 2012 10:17 AM

Suter-Honda or something, an implement a budget cap so that we no longer need the big money in the sport. At the moment Honda and Yamaha are spending crazy money just to beat each other, and the result is that no one else can keep up, or even get close.

That is not going to change unless we get the other manufacurers involved again and back up to speed (which will take time, cost even more money and will only last until the next recession), or we do away with full-factory teams and limit the costs. That way the bike manufacturers can still stay involved, still use the sport to sell their bikes, but the costs don't spiral.

The fans won't care, as long as the series still has the best riders and big grids where there are more than 4 bikes capable of winning.


Elton - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 10:21 AM

In 2014 Edwards will be 40 years old, stil looking for his first win on a CRT bike. Not even thinking about retirement. Where Stoner retires at 27.. Good on them both!

Ed - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 10:24 AM

I seriously hope this get the go ahead! Screw Honda and their 'privateer RCV213', what a joke that will be. Another satellite team at best with no chance to win against a factory Honda.

The leasing of engines would be the perfect solution. Like it's been mentioned before, just follow what they've done on F1. Sealed engines at the beginning of the championship, every one runs their own chassis.

I can't even remember when was the last time a non-factory bike got even close to wining a championship.


November 16, 2012 10:40 AM

@ Ed

Do you REALLY think a CRT with a rental engine will stand a better chance than a Factory built bike? PFFFTTT...

@ Jon M

You can kinda understand WHY CE3 blew up about his POS bike. It was a joke. And they were promised a list as long as his arm of things by BMW AND SUTER and almost none of it happened.


November 16, 2012 10:48 AM


Edwards won the very first CRT race... Round 1 this year at Qatar. It seems the bike was actually ok, early doors, but they just never developed it.

Suter don't actually have a great record, given their reputation as one of the best private chassis builders in the paddock. I appreciate the Ilmor team had financial issues, but the bike was nowhere when it did run.

And their Moto2 bike doesn't seem great, a lot of riders have lobbed it and tried something else. The only guy to do really well on it was Marquez, and frankly he's have probably won the series on any bike. Including my old C90.


HRC - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 10:58 AM

@ Ed,

The Honda privateer bike is going to have inhouse design, no need fitting together a chassis and engine like the Yamaha deal ...

Honda knows what they're doing, Yamaha playing catchup ...

DM52 - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 11:15 AM

leased engine and gearbox packages should have been part of the CRT era from the start (goes without saying a leased engine cannot be 'claimed' by a rival manufacturer). You only have to look at the end of the 990 era when the Roberts chassis with the V5 Honda engine was scrapping for podiums to see that that is where the formula should be. Engine regs need to be frozen akin to the current F1 setup so private teams and the manufacturers can enjoy the stability, savings and comfort of being able to plan ahead long term.


November 16, 2012 11:24 AM

@ Oli

Also, don't forget, Suter built Kawasaki's ZX-RR. The engine was a beast, but handling was iffy... I still think if they'd stayed in it the 2009 bike would've got some proper results though.

Maybe they should give it a bash with their new philosophy used on the ZX-10R. That thing handles like a boss.

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