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"We don't know what's going to happen in 2014 engine wise, as it looks like Yamaha might be leasing some engines" – Colin Edwards

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RSMick

November 16, 2012 2:30 PM

"And BTW it was more than just the cases that made the GPC decide that the WCM Yamaha was not a true prototype."

At the same time Petronas was splitting from Sauber over their bike and the FP1 was planning to enter WSB after its slow parade laps in Malaysia in GP guise. Guess who originally developed that bike as well? Yes Suter.
It was just the cases that the bike was stopped the WCM running in Japan, instigated by FGS who also were running the TL engined Bimota and the Tornado before any were produced.

ZeR0 Kun

November 16, 2012 2:45 PM

@ mrfill

as long as the factory lease the engine to the teams/builders, the same rule as per factory should be applied. however, the main factor whether the leasing can be afforded by the teams are eventually, down to the engine costs itself.

in my humble opinion, pneumatic valves should be outlawed in the sense that 1) the development cost of this technology is astronomical from scratch therefore deter many manufacturers/engine builders from entering motoGP with basic, decent technology and 2) no application of pneumatic valves on production machines even after more than 20 years after its introduction, making it impossible for factories to recoup their investment in this technology via sales of their road-going products.

not only this will reduce the cost tremendously, but also may have knock-on effects on the close racing - rev-ceiling will be lowered without the need of standard electronic rev-limiter, thereby reducing power. when the cost down, factories can lease and/or sell t

Agent55

November 16, 2012 2:47 PM

Would rather see you on a bike or in a championship where you could finish inside the top 10 Mr. Edwards. Must be a hell of a paycheck to be the ambassador of CRT's, if that's the case I can't really blame you, but it's no fun for the fans.

Marc - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 2:55 PM

First Edwards should just retire as way beyond his fresh date but onto the CRT v customer bikes. If Honda is developing a reasonably priced customer bike based on its factory bikes that should be better than what a privateer team can hobble together with a BMW/Aprilia/Kawi engined in a third party framed bike. It's time for Yamaha to also develop reasonably priced customer bikes they can sell to private teams and possibly bring back Kawi or Aprilia into Motogp as factories that can also supply customer bikes. Not sure if anyone would want a customer Ducati though.

mrfill

November 16, 2012 3:25 PM

@marc

That is suggesting that Honda build the best frames. That is clearly not true in WSBK and I'm sure there's an engineering genius somewhere who could do better. All they have to do is find him!

shamarone

November 16, 2012 4:10 PM

re: "there seems to be an abudance of people with the impression that Honda / Yamaha make the best chassis in the world,"

all's that means is there's thankfully an abundance of smart people.

re: "no what they make is a great bike but don't be fooled into believing it can't get any better"

don't be fooled into thinking an entity without any substantial revenue stream can consistently match wits with a factory who's capabilities are the result of DECADES of revenue stream.

re: Companies like Suter, Kalex, FTR etc all have a massive amount of experience in chassis design"

call me when they can mass produce whole kit with a price point under $20k that allows one rider to win a championship...? and another rider in the same season to challenge a pole position record (9) while finishing runner-up by only 1/2 point. ie. shakey, grinner and the Zed-10.

with all due respect to their "massive amount of experience", as of right now, it means precisely d!kk (tommy lee jones voice).

Dario - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 4:31 PM

Colin just doesn't look too happy any more. This pic, and and any time the camera catches him in the garage, he just looks frustrated. I guess money must be his main reason for staying cause it can't be the racing. He could have seen more action in WSBK.

shamarone

November 16, 2012 4:59 PM

re: "in my humble opinion, pneumatic valves should be outlawed in the sense that 1) the development cost of this technology is astronomical from scratch therefore deter many manufacturers/engine builders from entering motoGP with basic, decent technology"

i'll sign this petition... along with carbon/carbon brakes. with all the rain we've had this year, their use has been pretty much a moot point. multiply the number of wet races/practices we had by the expanded number of teams, and that means TENS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars were left just sitting on top of toolboxes.

another round - Unregistered

November 16, 2012 5:32 PM

Mr Texas Torna-slow....get away from this mess that is for newcomers, GP journey-men, and dreamers on a budget, and race in SUPERS. Can we get a petition going? The first line can read "Dear Sir, we are doing this because we love you, and care..." I don't see it as a step down at all, just a much better fit.

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