MotoGP » Preziosi replaced in Ducati shake-up


Filippo Preziosi replaced as general manager of Ducati Corse by Bernhard Gobmeier, Paolo Ciabatti returns

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Ausrossi

November 21, 2012 2:08 AM

People talk about Stoner being the only one capable of riding the Duc and that is true to an extent but I think his final year with 5 DNFs and 3 wins shows that Rossi was on a bike going backwards and that even under Stoner with the Yam and Honda making further major advances that wins even under Stoner would be unlikely particularly in 2012. Rossi tried to turn that ship around but with races being essentially testing on the fly he had no chance. Would Stoner have done better in 2012 on the Duc compared to Rossi possibly due in particularly to Rossi's reliance on a planted front. But I think the gap in terms of wins/podiums would not have been as great as people make out.

Just Watch - Unregistered

November 21, 2012 2:10 AM

Preziosi moved... it decided since VR meet Audi. IMO. hopefully i'm wrong.

But, if i'm not wrong..once again we see VR could't hold his word. As we know, VR said his move to ducati not about money, it's all about Preziosi.

Kudos - Unregistered

November 21, 2012 2:32 AM

This guy should have been gone a long time ago. Understeer for how long? In the beginning when Loris was pilot it handled like a hay wagon. The engine chassis balance was always wrong. The engine was essentially designed by Ferrari and ridiculously powerful. The chassis now is a sub out job to FTR. So what is left? The suspension is Ohlins. The CPU is Magneti. What exactly did this guy design? Honda apparently uses a 90 degree V4 and look at that machine it is near perfect. Yamaha's Masao Furusawa showed that Preziosi is a no nothing. Remember his carbon frame statement. That it was a science experiment and they will work on it while losing every week with the best rider in the know universe and also Rossi. Don't let the door hit you ass on the way out loser!

Mike - Unregistered

November 21, 2012 3:17 AM

The Germans don't know a thing about racing motorcycles??? Anyone who says this must be living in a cave. Ever hear of WSBK? Ever hear of a lttle company named BMW? Did you happen to notice how they were running these past two years? And this from a start-up effort! This change has been soooo long coming! And for getting past the Italian culture and politics - if those guitos play hard-to-get-along the Germans will just move the ballpark to another country.

amakusa

November 21, 2012 4:02 AM
Last Edited 639 days ago

They shouldve replaced Preziosi with Casey Stoner. He can test the bike himself and if any of the contracted rider is behind him in tests he can cut their wages by a week! That ought to motivate them! Or install horns on his test bike so he can honk Dovi from behind and push him.

Just kidding!

True Fan - Unregistered

November 21, 2012 4:21 AM

@ausrossi "...Stoner...true to an extent...his final year with 5 DNFs and 3 wins shows that Rossi was on a bike going backwards... Rossi tried to turn that ship around but with races being essentially testing on the fly he had no chance..."

Umm, I hate to shatter your illusion with facts, but Stoner's last 13 races on the Ducati resulted in 3 DNFs, 1 5th, 4 3rds, 2 2nds, 3 wins - 9 podiums out of 13 races.

Rossi ABSOLUTELY turned that ship around.

It had much less to do with "testing on the fly" than you think. Maybe he just isn't as good a rider as Stoner. It seems to be Rossi's assessment, and he would have a better idea. That takes nothing away from Rossi's great record. Just from fanboy dreams.

? - Unregistered

November 21, 2012 4:25 AM

Only one sensible point in about 100 posts, the usual vicarious and hero worship cr@p.

Anyway, on the sensible point. The 90o engine is quite an issue. Ducati have a unique motorcycle and face a cross-road. Preziosi has a sweet job now, and a future. Some reward for his inovation, or attemp to, but neither this, nor the new HO will solve the problem.

The L engine works well on a road bike, just hits a limit when the extreme physics of motogp are applied. And, they can't count on another rider comming along and overcoming its deficiencies.

I think their MotoGP effort is in the death throws.

cassyo

November 21, 2012 4:31 AM
Last Edited 639 days ago

We will never probably see a movie clip to show all the transformations Ducati bike have suffered in the last two years.Clip better made by a third party maybe and not by the Ducati PR themselves and which to expose how far the present bike from Stoner's actually is. And how far from an "ideal rideable" japanese bike as well.

RipripTSS500

November 21, 2012 4:35 AM

Long time coming.

Stoner didn't need to trust the front, because he steers with the rear.

Rossi steers with the front, and drives with the rear.

Stoner develops drive by picking up the bike once he's finished steering it.

We haven't had someone who wins WC's like that since Kenny Roberts.

? - Unregistered

November 21, 2012 4:37 AM


It would be good to have the insight into the effort at Ducati.


But, by "ideal rideable", it would need to be for MotoGP. I don't think you'll ever see bikes and tires with such a limited life span on the road. So, not the same forces applied.

In the last two years I think they've tried just about everything to make up for it. But at MotoGP level, the Ducati, even with its imense power, will never be a bike for every man.

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