MotoGP » 'Honda is fair with its rivals, unlike Ferrari'

“At F1, Ferrari has absolute authority. To be honest, we suffered a lot in that period. In MotoGP, Honda is in a similarly strong position but we like to be fair with our rivals” - Shuhei Nakamoto.

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efi - Unregistered

November 25, 2012 7:15 PM


If you don't cap the cost, you will quickly end up with one dominant manufacturer. That can work for a spec series, but for selling the product, multiple teams are desirable to generate rooting/betting interest in the fanbase. Worse (well, not worse from the financial perspective, but from the tech perspective), once you have that market dominance, development tends to stagnate due to lack of competition.

So, you need the rules to reflect a cost cap low enough to induce a crowd-pleasing number of competitors (manufacturers, not entrants) to actually compete. MotoGP is pretty clearly on the high side of this number right now. BMW complaining is an indicator of that, as is the limited number of factories participating. If an Erik Buell bitches about the cost of entry being too high, you can write him off as a marginal player. You can even say that about Ducati, though they rely so heavily on their racing heritage for marketing that their opinion should carry more weight than thei

efi - Unregistered

November 25, 2012 7:16 PM


You can even say that about Ducati, though they rely so heavily on their racing heritage for marketing that their opinion should carry more weight than their market segment and budget warrant. But when heavyweights with deep pockets like BMW and Kawasaki opt out, you have a good indication that your balance is skewed.

So no, you shouldn't listen to the companies like Honda that are perennially dominant and going to be there regardless - why should they bitch about less competition?! You need to listen to the marginal players like BMW. If they really ARE marginal, like Buell, you can ignore them. If they are selling the top bike on the retail market in your target segment, and heavily invested in racing right now, you probably shouldn't disregard their complaints entirely.

Makrus - Unregistered

November 25, 2012 11:10 PM

I was a fan of stoner, I don't use if and buts what has happened has happened. It's pretty stupid to pigeon hole people on the bassis they support/supported a rider. (stoner fans) what the hell is that? You know I was kinda hoping now he is gone, that there would be less cr@p spoken in these forums from both sides. I guess I was wrong.

Makrus - Unregistered

November 25, 2012 11:20 PM

Now back on topic. If Honda are pulling strings, which some of the reports in this forum sound feasible. They sure suck at it, 2 championships since Rossi left haha that's hilarious, one of them was from a guy who only won one race. If they are rigging it they are terrible.

Gypsy - Unregistered

November 25, 2012 11:41 PM

I can remember the comment from Honda when Rossi left.

We don't need him, anyone can win on our bikes.

Well it took a long time to get any consistency out of the Honda and a win.

But open cheque book racing will allow Honda to do that.

A pity Suzuki & Kawasaki didn't have some of that cash.

Sick of 2 brand racing, Yamaha & Honda.

I hope with the return of Rossi Motogp picks up, it has been utterly boring for the last 5 years.

Watch a race from the start and after 3 ~ 5 laps that is on the most part the finishing order.


November 26, 2012 11:42 AM
Last Edited 1168 days ago

@Gypsy .
what do you mean the return pf valintino rossi next year? , has he been gone or something?
would love to hear just how you and so many others expect vale to change the racing from boring to exciting , seriously i really want to know how he is going to stop pedro and lorenzo from taking off after 3 or 5 laps and hold everyone in a nice tight battle to the end.
please tell.
if he couldn't do it on the M1 with stoner there the last 5 years how is this amazing change going to materialise ?
after all pedro and jlo are now fully accustomed to stoners pace , and won't be slowing down for no one.

The Joker - Unregistered

November 26, 2012 5:09 PM

@ dacron

Dude you're funny.

"if he couldn't do it on the M1 with stoner there the last 5 years how is this amazing change going to materialise ?"

Last 5 years Rossi 2 championships, Lorenzo 2 championship, your boy Stoner only 1, and retire after that cause he couldn't handle the pressure.

bultoboy - Unregistered

November 26, 2012 8:21 PM

didnt honda sell out to ross brawn in 2008 because of the $300 million dollar cost of running the team and he promptly won the constructors title with a mercedes engine....priceless


November 26, 2012 8:54 PM
Last Edited 1168 days ago

@The Joker.
your even funnier my good man.
i think you understood nothing i said bro.
i never mentioned who won the most , i was simply referring to the pace stoner set from 2007 , there was still only a few riders a mile in front of the rest no matter who won what , the racing was stretched out and far from the close racing you guys are expecting vale to somehow make happen next year.
its as clear as day that vales fans only see vale being up there as close exciting racing even if its still stretched out and the podium decided after 5 laps , and when he's not up there its totally boring racing.

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