MotoGP » 'Honda is fair with its rivals, unlike Ferrari'


“At F1, Ferrari has absolute authority. To be honest, we suffered a lot in that period. In MotoGP, Honda is in a similarly strong position but we like to be fair with our rivals” - Shuhei Nakamoto.

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Gypsy - Unregistered

November 26, 2012 10:44 PM

@ dacron
I meant he may ad some excitement to a very, very boring telecast of motorcycle riding, not racing.

To televise racing you need more than one bike to a frame.

The way it is now Moto2 & 3 are the draw card, Motogp is last.

Too many electronics and no skill.

As many have said, something needs to happen, Motogp is boring.

Maybe Marquez will liven it up, providing he keeps it rubber side down.

dacron

November 27, 2012 12:01 AM

@Gypsy.
not sure i'm reading you correctly mate , stoner , pedro , lorenzo ect have been displaying phenomenal skill every race since they entered motogp.
i can't help but see your comment as saying todays riders have no skill.
stoner has always used as less electronics as he is allowed to.
its boring because there is not enough bikes out there to make it interesting , it has nothing to do with a riders skill.

Gypsy - Unregistered

November 27, 2012 4:15 AM

No skill means exactly that.

Electronics control....
Traction control
Anti wheelie
Throttle percentage on certain corners when mapped in
Plus more.

Take all electronic rider aids off and let's see what happens.

Motorcycles are excitement machines, but these 800's compared to the 1000's are boring to watch.

Unfortunately a lot of the current riders have only raced these bikes with all the electronics so removing them will no doubt cause a lot of crashes.

And anyone who says they need electronics to control 250hp and nerf them back to 200hp must remember we already have that, they are called Superbikes and are extremely exciting to watch.

dacron

November 27, 2012 4:52 AM

@Gypsy.
there's only one rider who has voiced his displeasure at the amount of electronics in prototypes and that was casey stoner , nearly all others who have had the question thrown at them have said it would be imposable to ride these bikes without them.
vale once said the electronics should be taken away , that was in 07 when everyone believed casey stoner was only so good because of electronics , the reality was he was so good because he was using so little of it and had more control at his finger tips.
once vale entered ducati there was an endless drive for electronics to try help him ride it and he himself was right behind it to try and tame the aggressive power.
stoner is gone now but without a doubt if he stayed and electronics were taken away he would win everything by a country mile.
but i personally think to take them away would only bring back the horrific injury toll of the 500cc days keeping the grids empty.

TalentFan

November 27, 2012 1:02 PM

Seems a lot of people can't see the wood for the trees...
A lot of posts on here off topic, using the thread as a platform for the usual 'my guy is best and your guy sucks due to (add same old purile stuff here to taste).
The question really is not even about Honda alone - its whether or not having direct factory teams is destroying the sport - I think it is (see my earlier posts for why).
The funny thing is about all the Stoner, Vale, pedro, etc. posts on this thread is that just goes to prove how its all about the riders,and their skill and efforts that really are what count. Yet these same people will say that we must have factory involvement and electronics controlling everything as well. Which makes no sense to me at all, and just leads me to think that too many people are posting without actually considering the question beyond superficially.

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