MotoGP » Hayden behind WSBK duo, Dovizioso misses out


Ducati starts its final test of 2012, alongside WSBK teams at Jerez

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Dude - Unregistered

November 29, 2012 2:08 PM

The harsh reality is that the Superbikes put to shame a lot of the prototypes at a way lower cost and that makes the uppity Motogp crowd and Ezpeleta cringe in their sleep.

Ducati was succesful in WSBK without the trickle down technology of Motogp and so are, BMW, Kawasaki and aprilia so the Motogp is a technology testbed theory is total crap.

J - Unregistered

November 29, 2012 2:20 PM

Wow... I have read half of the comments on here and had to stop because of the bunch of idiots that comprehend so little.
First off... at these tight tracks, Jerez, Sachsenring, Laguna etc superbikes and CRT will be much closer in times to motogp because all the horsepower difference of MGP to Superbikes does not translate to these tracks. Superbikes and CRTs probably carry as much corner speed but the electronics package of the MGP bikes permit better dissemination of power to the ground. So I am not bothered by one lap speed at a small track because over a race distance the nearest superbike at this track would be almost no better than a CRT or just a little better (because engines are not detuned to live longer). Couple all that with the fact that Nicky was TESTING not outright lap times. The lap record is 1:39.7 for MGP and the supers did 1:40.1 so that means at this track the power and top speed are negated.... THAT'S ALL......

Martin P. - Unregistered

November 29, 2012 2:37 PM

The times are not comparable, that is quite clear. The only thing that maybe we can extract from the times is that WSBK tires are good and superbikes can be very fast on them. If you look at the times, CRT is still slower than MotoGP Ducati, so there is no point in criticizing Ducati right now. Maybe just MotoGP tires are not that friendly to Ducati and CRT, otherwise CRTs should be as fast as superbikes if not faster. Lets see the times on next days of MotoGPs running.

shamarone

November 29, 2012 2:40 PM

re: "Ducati was succesful in WSBK without the trickle down technology of Motogp and so are, BMW, Kawasaki and aprilia so the Motogp is a technology testbed theory is total crap."

well, you're right about ezpelata cringing, but it's way worse. the 1098's oval throttle bodies came from the D16. the S1000's cylinder head and spherical shimmed, high revving valve train comes from their F1 program. and even though neither are active at the prototype level, both the kawi and aprilia were built with data gleaned from their time spent in grandprix.

shamarone

November 29, 2012 2:46 PM

re: "otherwise CRTs should be as fast as superbikes if not faster."

nope. not only can independent teams NOT build engines as good as the factories... guess what...? they can't build chassis as good as them either. they are outmanned, outgunned, and outresourced on both fronts.

J - Unregistered

November 29, 2012 3:25 PM

@shamarone...

I agree to an extent.... Keeping in mind that Ducati with their experience are asking FTR to do their chassis (but that may be the problem in the first place) but what it does say is that a racing heritage factory such as Ducati believes that a private builder can accomplish what the factory can or better (cheaper?). PS many parts building even for yamaha or whosoever are outsourced although the design may be in house....

Morpheus - Unregistered

November 29, 2012 5:58 PM

With that no good VR46 sandbagging the last two seasons (LOL) and Preziosi getting sandbagged by the new management, it is only fitting that Ducati goes to WSBK. Hayden, Doviziosi, Spies and Iannone might be able to compete for a podium after Kawasaki, BMW and Aprilia. Hahahaha where are you at Ducatisti? Who is laughing now...the yellow brigade!!!!

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