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wosi.. - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 7:54 AM

A little stat that perhaps illustrates what I'm digging at.

Qatar 2011..Rossi's Ducati debut. He finished 7th.
His fastest lap was as quick in that race as his quickest the year before, after 7 years on the M1, while winning the race.

It's all very well saying Stoner would have won on Rossi's ALU beam frame Ducati, who knows?
What you need to ask is..Ducati had developed a CF bike for the 1000cc class.
Rossi got that changed..would Casey have binned(sic) the bike?
He said there was nothing wrong with it..and in all liklehood would have carried on with it crashing trying to keep up with the Jap bikes, who with Honda especially in 2011, seriously upped the game.

Dave - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 9:11 AM

"@dave, sure rossi was on the downward trend but would stoners success on the ducati vs rossi's complete and utter failure not overshadow rossi's back to back titles? "

...guys, so many emotions are overclouding the facts,

stoner won a third (16) of his total premier class wins & 70% of his ducati wins on the back to back bikes (07 & 08) which correct my facts if they are wrong, was a bike 2 years removed from the one rossi stepped onto in 2011?

but you have no issues comparing stoners performance on ducati (of which he had 4 years in total) to rossis (only 2 on a bike 2 years removed from stoners consistent winning machine)???

Your logic is no different to comparing rossis time at honda to stoners (which rossi still comes out on top with 3 WC all back to back and 33 wins).

get over yourselves.

Fn ids - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 9:16 AM

Seriously do you guys have any idea how silly this all is.
Here is a little stat for you all
Stoner fans think stoner is the best
Rossi fans think Rossi is the best
99% of the above people who post on here keep throwing out stupid stats and talk nonsense trying to convince the other side their selected rider is best, never coming to a conclusion it just stops once they get bored or the next article gets posted so they can do it all over again. Is this really keeping you entertained? I generally see the same people posting the same cr4p even at times where the article isn't even about the riders.
Get a hobby ya fn ids. :P

Dave - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 9:18 AM

...and then you get the numb nuts that post to rant at the posters ie: nothing to say at all.

But i guess at least they have a life...right?

Fn ids - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 9:48 AM

Ooooo clever boy. No it's more the who rants on these people say it once and move on. It's not a question of having a life or not it's just weird that this entertains you. I have things to say and i say it but the stoner Rossi thing has been done to death. Get over it.
Btw my rider of the year was Jorge followed closely by dani both of which were better than stoner and Rossi this year haha. I can't believe you can't see that in all of your stats and comments the other side still comes back with more crap you aren't going to change their minds. Well on that note I'm over my quota for posts in these stupid forums so I'll be on my way.

jerginz - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 5:27 PM

So Wosi then what you are saying is that rossi didn't put as much effort into his riding as stoner did? and @dave, the 2010 bike WAS the one rossi rode for 6 races in 2011 and stoner still managed to get 3 wins, 9 podiums altogether in 2010. THOSE ARE FACTS.

jerginz - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 5:46 PM

you know what nevermind that last post, its over and done with, stoners all out. let me ask you something though, do you think marquez or any other rookie will win a race for the first time since '08? if so, will it be before rossi wins a race?

Martyn Payne - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 7:03 PM

Cal crutchlow....not because I'm British but for his grit and determination in all that is an inferior team and motorcycle, give him a full factory bike and just watch him go. Unlike that big baby Ben spies cal is an amazing talent just waiting to be let out of his cage.

johnson - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 8:12 PM

i disagree payne, crutchlow couldn't do in his 2nd year what spies did as a rookie. he had 2 3rd place finishes, spies had a 2nd and 3rd place and a pole as a rook. Crutchlow has peaked in my opinion will not prove me wrong unless he gets win under his belt with at least 3 other podiums as spies did in 2011. plus the factory and satellite yamahas are not so different as dovi was able to get 6 podiums this year to crutchlows 2. so if you were to pick a rider from tech3, there is a much better case for dovi

Martyn Payne - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 8:50 PM

Fair comment! We will just have to see in 2013, but mug money is on cal and his bull dog spirit. By the way Johnson I would prefer to be called Martyn as it is more friendly to be called by ones FIRST name?

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