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Who were the most closely matched team-mates, who were poles apart and who brought the most success for their brand in MotoGP 2012...

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Stavros - Unregistered

December 09, 2012 11:39 AM

The Stoner vs Pedrosa numbers are interesting considering Stoner was riding handicapped for many of them.

Stoner rode with a freshly mashed ankle at Indy, then came back way too soon from surgery for Motegi, Sepang, Phillip Island and Valencia. That's five races where he wasn't able to ride 100% and yet Pedrosa still only beat him by 1 in races they both contested. A dry race at Valencia may have actually reversed those positions. Contrast that with last year, where Pedrosa was riding with a less severe injury but was massively beaten head to head either way. Minus the injury Stoner would have been fighting for the title at Valencia, but C'est la Vie in MotoGP. Injuries happen and if they don't cripple of kill you have to count yourself lucky in the end. Which is why IMO Stoner is getting out.. Anyone with children knows how they change your from the moment they pop out.

Busa Boy - Unregistered

December 08, 2012 7:40 PM

Sonofsam.Did you watch the 2010 season at all?
Rossi got beaten by his team mate Lorenzo.Just thought i would point that out to you.
And before you come back and say Rossi was injured and missed several races that year,i would like to point out that Stoner also missed several races THIS year through injury.

Rossi Lucky to Win only 1 - Unregistered

December 08, 2012 3:42 PM


say all u like till ur mouth frothes,like saying casey had been lucky,like Cappirossi-Melandri-Giberneu-Nicky,to have delivered some wins every other season for Ducati to looking like a contender which is good for Ducati's pride.for how many years?5years of luck,whereas Rossi failed a single pole position?.
Buddy,don't act so smart as if u knew what Casey's been's not him what is something serious with,but ur decaying nut is something serious with to interpretate the word 'LUCKY'.

SonofSam - Unregistered

December 08, 2012 12:36 PM

Interesting figures......not every season a 'motoGP legend' & 'fastest man on the planet' gets beaten by his team mate. As somebody said these figures don't even tell the real story of crashing out trying to keep up. Did this ever happen (getting beaten by the team mate over the course of a season) to any of the real legends?

jfc1 - Unregistered

December 08, 2012 3:03 AM

Now as to the real reason, or reasons, that Stoner retired? Beyond the fact that if $15M wasn't enough to keep him riding, then surely it must have been something serious. My personal guess is that he knew that he'd been lucky as hell, winning 10 races in a single season and his first season on a new bike on top of that, same as he did at Ducati, and knew that he'd probably not come anywhere close to that again. For him "up" meant winning 11 races, a move to either Yamaha or back to Ducati. He merely weighed the odds and cashed in his chips and rode out his contract.

jfc1 - Unregistered

December 08, 2012 2:57 AM

"Stoner made the Ducati look like a contender - no one else has even gotten close. "

I keep reading this comment, it's made over and over again, and it seems that every time I read it the guy making it seems to have completely forgotten that Stoner won 6 races for Ducati 2 years ago on a bike that was only, what, 8 years old (Stoner won the WC in 2007 and Ducati had rejoined MotoGP in 2003, Stoner first rode for Honda in 2011), left Ducati and then won 10 races on a bike that the Vale, Nicky Hayden, Colin Edwards and Pedrosa spent 15 years developing and winning on. His last year at Ducati Lorenzo dominated him on a slower bike, the Ducati is still the fastest on the straights. The only way to really know what Stoner has on that bike that supposedly no one else has on it would be for him to go back to Ducati and race it now. Which he *could* have done. But he didn't. Instead he retired saying "he had absolutely nothing more to prove in MotoGP" So, now we'll never know. And my bet is t

wosit - Unregistered

December 08, 2012 2:40 AM

@bikenut - I thought that
'amassing the most points
possible by the end of the
season' was the idea, although
it's clearly not that simple.
Was it boring?..Perhaps we
should ask Jorge?
Posted by wosi..
yess,Wosi,definetely will.
U could also ask how jubilant Nicky felt once he saw Rossi fall at the last round at Valencia 2006 that he might be thinking how amateur this Rossi was for taking it hot too early instead of being composed for securing required points to outscore himself(NH)to clinch his,Rossi's,next title....Bloody more on!

wosi.. - Unregistered

December 07, 2012 7:34 AM

@ bikenut - I thought that 'amassing the most points possible by the end of the season' was the idea, although it's clearly not that simple.

Was it boring?..Perhaps we should ask Jorge?


December 07, 2012 1:29 AM

@wosi you are of course right, crash or injury = fail

But wouldn't it be a boring year of racing if the riders all put aside living in the moment and going for it and instead concentrated on simply amassing the most points possible by the end of the season?

wosi.. - Unregistered

December 06, 2012 3:34 PM

Interesting article but..

given that Hayden & Stoner both missed races through unforced errors & self inflicted injury, wouldn't it be more appropriate their non-starts be included as defeats?

Not crashing, especially during practice, and staying fit to amass points is arguably more important than winning.

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