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You vote Nicky Hayden 10th in's MotoGP Rider of the Year poll

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Hemmy - Unregistered

December 22, 2012 10:33 PM

....... It went down to the last race in 2011, and he onyl beat him by a 'small' margin in comparison in 2012 because Hayden was injured, otherwise, it would have been just as close as 2011.

There the facts that Rossi fans find hard to swallow, and it says everything you need to know to put the whole Rossi V Stoner 'debate' to bed.

Dean - Unregistered

December 22, 2012 11:13 PM

Rossi V Stoner debate is based on statistical manipulation.

To compare two riders you have to compare their entire careers. Stoner fans will have you believe motogp started in 2006 and ended in 2012. Lets wait till Rossi retires and then compare both riders.

Graham - Unregistered

December 22, 2012 11:19 PM


I agree that Stoner can ride the Ducati better than Rossi but teammate comparisons are very silly.

People go on about the difference between stoner and his teammate in 2007 but that same can be said for Lorenzo and Spies this year, just because Capirossi was nowhere dosn't mean it was a bad bike.

All we know for sure is that Stoner's riding style suits the Ducati better than anyone else, but if he was as good as people make out he would have walked away with the title this year rather than injuring himself under pressure from a teammate leading him in the championship like Rossi in 2010

Livio Suppo - Unregistered

December 22, 2012 11:55 PM

Can we all agree that Valentino Rossi did more harm than good to the Ducati brand of motorcycles in 2011/12....

Hayden spent 6 years on a Repsol Honda and has 3 race wins to show for it ???

Making my own bed - Unregistered

December 22, 2012 11:57 PM

We all love Nicky. But PLEASE give it a rest with the "poor old suffering Nicky" rubbish. You make it sound like he was forced to make his choices! He wasn't. He has decided to stay with Ducati so obviously knows what that entails. He knows he ain't gonna win a race again. Nicky Hayden is a great bloke and was at the top of his game in 2006. But it is almost 2013, 7 years later! Like colin Edwards, they are just "hanging in there" for as long as they can. Great man, great MotoGP rider, but yet another rider stopping a new rider given a chance.

Vince - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 4:41 AM

Can't even have a decent discussion about the Ducati bike without Stoner fans jumping all over it and mudslinging at Rossi. Kind of like the ex girlfriend that tries to embarass you every time she sees you are dating someone else.

Slide Rules! - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 7:08 AM

Vince, it's a story about Nick Hayden and you opened up on Crutchlow who was on a customer bike and beat full factory rider Rossi who was on a bike that proved regularly to be the fastest at many tracks in the hands of guys with less experience and support. Are you telling me ducati turned down the power on the 46 bike? Get real mate!
Reference to Stoner is always appropriate because as Valentino says, the bike changed little since he rode it at the end of 2010 when it had multiple fastest laps, podiums and most importantly WINS!

Elton - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 9:25 AM

@ Vince

I beleive it is you that started comparing the 2007 Ducati's 'advantage' with the 2012 Ducati's 'advantage'. And you still have yet to answer the question, WHEN did Stoner have 20 kmph over the rest? Here's a news flash, it never happened. The Ducati's were quick in 2007 but Honda were always very close and by Catalunya even Yamaha weren't that far off, only 5k's or so off even at Mugello, which is the same margin Rossi had on Stoner at Mugello this year. But the fact remains that top speed is a total red herring when it comes to determining how competitive a package is, as proved by every other Ducati bar Stoners for the last 6 years, and also by the way Yamaha have pretty much dominated the championship over the same period.

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