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You vote Nicky Hayden 10th in's MotoGP Rider of the Year poll

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Busa Boy. - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 1:43 PM

To compare two riders you have to compare their entire careers.Posted by Dean.
Not really Dean.The best and only real way to see who is the better of two riders is to set them against each other on the same tracks at the same time,head to head.
Then and only then can you see the true result.One riders career may be twice as long as the others,so how can you say that is the way to compare?
If you race for ten years whilst your rival only races for five,then the guy with the longer career has more chances to win races.You have to be racing at the same time together to get a true comparison.Since Rossi and Stoner have been riding together,Stoner has won more races.No getting away from it.But overall career wins go to Rossi.Not hard to understand is it.

Vince - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 3:32 PM

People are ignoring my point. What I said was Ducati do not have as much of a straight line advantage now than they do in 2007. And it's not to do with turning down the power as someone suggested, they have just been caught up by the other teams. I fail to see how Stoner or Rossi are relevant to this.

Dean - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 3:58 PM

@Busa Boy

Since Rosberg and Schumacher have been drove together Rosberg outscored him and won a race. That means that Rosberg was better than him for those 2 years.

That doesn't mean you can start saying if Rosberg was around in 1992 he would be a 7 time world champion, it doesn't work that way. That's the logic most Stoner fans have, when in truth it just means Stoner was more succesful between 2006-2012. Anything else is just opinion.

M1M - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 4:38 PM

Aaaargh, it's deja vu all over again! Our we going to have to put up with this forever? Can't we introduce a special variant of Godwin's law for motorcycle forums? Anyone who invokes the Rossi vs Stoner argument on a thread which has nothing to do with either of them invalidates their own argument and in an ideal world their comments would be deleted. Following a second offence, culprits would be blocked from the site altogether.

desmoquak - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 5:40 PM

Nicky is a World Champion, something that can never be taken away. Now that Stoner has left the paddock, There are only three MotoGp WC on the grid....There are riders on the grid that have never won a race much less a WC. Albeit, I agree even as a Ducati rider myself. The bike has been on a downhill slide sine 09.... I belive he is biding his time with Ducati and when he steps down as a racer, he will stay with big red on the PR side of things or as a test rider.

Busa Boy. - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 8:33 PM

Dean,we are not talking about a 2 year period here but a 7 year period.
And dont forget,Stoner was on a satellite bike for his first year,then 4 years on the Ducati that Rossi has had so much trouble with.Yet he still won more races in that 7 years than Rossi did.That is not opinion,it is fact.
I am not taking anything away from Rossi.He is a great champion.but the fact is that during the time they faced each other on the grid,Stoner beat him more times than he beat Stoner.

Elton - Unregistered

December 23, 2012 9:34 PM

Rosberg/Schumi is a totally different situation. Schumacher retired and came back and is 43 years old, well past his prime. Rossi is only 33 and has never taken an extended break from the sport. 33 is still well within peak performance years for a motorcycle racer historically, 43 is not.

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