MotoGP » Ben Spies: The moment I decided to leave Yamaha


“That was the moment when I decided I wasn't going to ride for Yamaha in 2013” - Ben Spies

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Claes

January 06, 2013 10:02 AM

Hi
#Separated, and the reason Ducati have not won in 2 years??
and Rossi is really good that he could beat JL when he was a rookie in MotoGP. JL was new to a team with the best rider who called all set up development shots, he had to ride a bike that was for Rossi, as soon as he got comfortable he beat him:)that is not an effort of Rossi to beat a rookie in his first and second year, almost embarrassing that he lost the third one:) Rossi to Stoner (almost rookie 2007 and to JL almost rookie) and if Stoner would have been on anything else than Ducati he would not have got 2008-09 either, I am not saying Stoner would but he would have taken lots of points of him to get other to be up there.
I hope Rossi do well, but I be very surprised if he ever win a MotoGP again in a un injured field.
I have big hopes for MM but I did for Danni to in 2006-07, so time will tell:)
Cheers Claes

separated

January 06, 2013 1:16 PM

Everyone knows Rossi suffered from injuries in 2010, beginning and ending with the shoulder injury from Jerez that year until surgery at the end of the season. While it's true Lorenzo improved considerably from his first two years, Rossi still challenged him on pure pace despite the injuries to his shoulder.

and don't miss the point -- the point being that there is no comparison between Spies and Rossi, remember?

Hahahaha - Unregistered

January 06, 2013 1:25 PM

@Claes

All the best riders get up to speed after one season generally, Rossi (Won 2nd season in gp), Stoner (Won 2nd season), Jorge (Competed strongly 2nd season, won 3rd). Whats more unusual is when a rider from the previous generation can still compete with the newer generation. Which Rossi did in 2008 and 2009 when he won back to back championships.

UncleSam

January 06, 2013 3:14 PM
Last Edited 710 days ago

@Separated
Here is my problem with the comments that you have expressed. You clearly view Spies as a no talent hack, completely undeserving of a place on the grid, yet his situation and that of Rossi are fairly similar. Rossi has spent two years attempting to adapt his style to a bike that did not suit him, despite many revisions it simply did not work. Spies on the other hand, ran respectable in his first year on the factory bike. The following season leadership chose to force a riding style on him to try and mimic that of Lorenzo. Spies could not ride with Lorenzos settings. It is not a reflection of Spies ability only that his likes are different than those of Jorge. If HRC would have thrown Pedrosa's set up on their bike for Simoncelli it would have been the same struggle, because they had very different styles. I hope that Ducati will be open to letting Spies get back to his style, just as you hope a return to Yamaha does the same for Rossi.

UncleSam

January 06, 2013 3:17 PM

cont.,

They are both deserving of a place on the grid and the opportunity to redeem themselves. I hope that they both succeed, because the Spanish Motorcycle Series, formerly known as MotoGP, needs more international flavor at the sharp end.

UncleSam

January 06, 2013 4:22 PM

@Separated
I also take exception to your double standard in regards to injuries. In one breath you bash Spies for missing races due to injury, and lets face it he had some rather huge crashes last season, then you defend Rossi by playing the injury card. Please attempt to exercise some fairness in your posts, not just what you can spin to suit your argument.

separated

January 06, 2013 5:45 PM

@UncleSam

No way am I wasting too much time replying to you anymore. Spies did not do well enough to keep his Yamaha ride, that does not make him a talentless hack at all. The belief that he didn't deserve to lose the ride is silly.

UncleSam

January 06, 2013 8:01 PM
Last Edited 710 days ago

@Separated
I scanned back through a fair amount of the posts here, I can't seem to locate the ones where people are saying Spies should have retained his mount at Yamaha. There are many wishing Spies well, many saying good riddance, several go back to AMA, but I failed to locate the ones you are referring to. As a Rossi fan you should be slightly concerned, as the culture has changed at Yamaha. Rossi is not being brought back to win a title and if he threatens Lorenzo, he will suffer the same fate as Spies.

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