MotoGP » Four teams to run control ECU in MotoGP 2013

Ioda, Avintia, Forward and PBM to run new MotoGP control ECU system in 2013

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January 10, 2013 9:43 AM

TalentFan or is it Citizen Smith?
What better way is there to develope fuel economy strategies? You can do it on a dyno but it does not give you the real picture. Do you think they would spend millions on Motogp if you could simply do it on a computer?
People saying how succesful and good F1 is, at the moment its all about when you use your liquorice tyre or DRS. What use are they for a road vehicle?

What are the real issue's that they are creating a smokescreen for?


January 10, 2013 9:26 AM

Yes, mpg IS an issue - but MotoGP is not the place to address that issue. They use thousands more litres in their Transport, Flights, Hire Cars etc.

There are far better ways to develop fuel economy strategies than MotoGP. A powerful road bike probably spends less than 0.1% of its run time at anything like full throttle. Also spends 99% of its run time at WAY below max revs, & where it makes fraction of its peak power. So what is being developed on a high-rev race engine, being used totally differently to any real-world application can ONLY mean its of use to gain a racing advantage. I bet its as much use a chocolate welding torch for anything else.

It's all a big con, and a smokescreen to distract fans from the reality. Just like politicians do - they create a furore about somethig emotive and insignificant, to stop voters concentrating on the real issues IMO.


January 10, 2013 1:28 AM

Just think of how many millions of Euros/Yen in Honda engineering would go down the tubes if they allowed the teams 2 more liters of fuel. The biggest expense in MotoGP just for a few bucks worth of fuel.

prof-x - Unregistered

January 10, 2013 12:55 AM

yup, Traction Control is ruining the spectacle because it only affords the more 'successful' riders better setups while the lessor riders will never get the same kind of attention, just like other series. And it brings way more expense than could be simply had by mandating the rider control the throttle directly.

Get rid of Traction Control, its as simple as that. That would lower the disparity between the factory and satellite riders, and people would be able to see who really has talent.

Now if there were actually competition for competitive tires ... lolz. Race to the bottom, just like F1. Thats what you get when you have CEOs and Financial types trying to milk what they can before it turns in to petrified poop.

mt - Unregistered

January 09, 2013 11:10 PM

Dorna needs to get some balls, ignore the manufacturers and do what has to be done, ie: get rid of all the electronic rubbish and bring it back to real racing!

They also need to scrap the control tyre, but not allow the use of "special" tyres. All riders can use the same tyres no special treatment or special fly ins. But thats another argument all together.


January 09, 2013 10:59 PM
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mt, I remember in 07 everybody accused Ducati of having a huge advantage in fuel consuption, in reality they and Shell just got it right.
There are 3 members of the MSMA, Honda are pushing for the fuel thing and Dorna used it as a trade off for the spec ECU. One of Yamaha or Ducati backed it, which I read it was Yamaha then its Yamaha's own fault if they get there bottom spanked.

mt - Unregistered

January 09, 2013 10:53 PM


I think you are buying the Honda fuel economy rubbish! Honda know that have an advantage in that department over the other manufacturers so they keep pushing for it.

The best thing that could happen to motogp is get rid of the manufacturer teams


January 09, 2013 10:51 PM

@ RSMick "If its close racing you want I doubt GP will ever be for you"

The direction MotoGP has been taken, & the way it seems destined to keep on going, then I'm afraid that I've come to pretty much the same conclusion.

I'll watch MotoGP no doubt, being an eternal optimist, but with no real hope or expectations. And - with the knowledge that what I'm watching is a pale imitation of what it has the potential to be IMO.


January 09, 2013 10:37 PM

Because we are human, if we think we are getting more, we buy more. All companies have to be seen to be greener now and that is worth a lot of money, would you ride your bike if it had to be filled up every 20 miles?
Whether I go in my car or bike I am still conscious of how much it costs, if the company selling the petrol is doing something to help me get better value I am more likely to buy that fuel.

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