MotoGP » Ducati won't ditch Desmodromic system


Ducati to stick with Desmodromic valve system for MotoGP engine.

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prof-x - Unregistered

January 16, 2013 4:05 PM

Ducati's problems: Front tire is too cold, Rear tire is too hot.

Honda's problem: Front tire chatters, Rear tire skips and hops/shakes.

Yamaha's problems: trying to hide a tire advantage since 2008/9.

choo996 - Unregistered

January 16, 2013 4:21 PM

Just plant its nose in the ground and its **** in the air...get a real hungry,maverick young gun on its back,tell him it wont spit you off....just hang on !! ...hey presto....back in the game.!!!!

rotsa ruck - Unregistered

January 16, 2013 4:32 PM

There's a saying in History class that goes, "you can't know where you're going until you know where you've been"

It may behoove Ducati to roll out the old bikes for comparisons sake. One trellis frame, 1 stressed trellis, 1 carbon screamer, 1 carbon big bang and the new bike. Then let each rider test them until they understand them and take their feedback to develop a whole new bike.

Ducati arrived at the current design through feedback from Stoner first, then from Rossi and Hayden. Quite possibly, Hayden may have preferred the trellis, or Spies the carbon frame. The data they generate from the old bikes may be beneficial to finding a proper way forward.

JAS - Unregistered

January 16, 2013 4:39 PM


choo996

You are so right!

That's exactly what Stoner did,
ride the Ass of the Bloody Thing!
He fought The Duke using Very Little Traction
Control and became World Champ!
Unlike Rossi who wanted The Duke to ride on Rails!

prof-x - Unregistered

January 16, 2013 4:55 PM

everyone knows Casey slides the rear tire, so if it over heats, its not exactly a bad thing as he can stand the bike up and 'sweep' through the corners, and hes insane so he can ride with a front end that could be floating in the air.

Its not the handling or the frame, its the tires, and unfortunately it seems even harder these days to get the tires to work across different makes. this is what happens when you use CONTROL tires. There is no interest in building tires for performance, only building tires that satisfy stakeholders and the tv watchers.

prof-x - Unregistered

January 16, 2013 4:59 PM

Allow Michelin and Pirelli to build a 'control' tire and see how long it takes for people to stop talking about how 'sweet' the handling is for the Yamaha.

Point blank, the Yamaha is designed for Jorge's 250 style of racing, it depends heavily on Tracton Control in order to keep the bike 'on track.' Spies rides his bike like hes expecting to have control over the spin of the rear tire and that it will be predictable (simple-mechanics, not traction control confused) He never got to grips with the bike under low traction because its not supposed to be ridden like that, just like Jorge @ Sepang.

Rossi has stated his dislike for TC and his big money is on the brakes, something the Honda has eclipsed the Yamaha with. Should be interesting to see what happens, if Rossi can get a bike thats good on the brakes, cause Jorge's bike is not meant for hard braking.

Marc - Unregistered

January 16, 2013 5:17 PM

Not surprised they're keeping the desmo engine and current frame. Making minor mods as noted is the prudent direction due to cost and time. Assuming they've learned enough with the twin spar it's time to tweak and make the engine work with the frame. Once they get those two items working well together then it's a matter of fine tuning ecu, tc, suspension and brakes.

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