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Ducati to stick with Desmodromic valve system for MotoGP engine.

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Ausrossi

January 17, 2013 1:48 AM

@Oops mate didn't you get the memo the only acceptable viewpoint is that Rossi has no idea about what makes a winning bike and that the Yam situation in 2004 was all Yam and the situation with Duc was all Rossi. See if it wins it is the manufacturer if it loses it is Rossi. As for Stoner, in 2010 he had 5 DNFs as Yam and Honda marched on. Testing is testing but I am confident that while he would have done better than Rossi on the Duke in 2011 and 2012 in 2012 particularly he would not have won a race, Yam but particularly Honda had improved markedly pushing the Ducs further down the order. And with Stoner his agreeable gutsy riding left him with a buggered ankle on a more user friendly bike imagine what would have happened on the Duc (and people wonder why Rossi didn't push it).

Ron - Unregistered

January 17, 2013 2:00 AM

@Oops
By not listen do you mean (after getting the Ducati 11.1 etc), building a twin spar alluminium frame, like the Japenese use, and Ducati havnt in MotoGP?

The twin spar isnt working for them, if it needs major work, then it would be nice to see Ducati switch (or switch back) to something different to the Japenese, nothing wrong with them, its just not Ducati, which is what I love about them, you know inovating new designs

prof-x - Unregistered

January 17, 2013 7:04 AM

Ducati's problems are mechanical and exist in between the bike and the tires. Until they can manage the tires the riders will have no chance at matching the Honda and Yamaha.

Its not handling its mechanical, and its caused by virtue of how Bridgestone spec their tires. Solution, clone the M1, Honda seem to only took 1/2 a season to claw back the advantage. Ducati is gonna need some riders that will push those tires, so they can really understand where the bike is deficient.

Allegedly Stoner ran tire temp readouts on his dash, probably would be a good idea for Ducati to start paying attention to their tire temps, better telemetry and analysis so they can make the right modifications.

Would be nice to see Dorna either hand over extra tires for testing or allow Ducati to contract out for tires, cause that would be cheaper in the end run im thinking.

Dare to Live

January 17, 2013 7:26 AM
Last Edited 613 days ago

MotoGP is a prototype class, I salute Ducati for taking the risk in developing a unique chassis. If it does not work out then I guess the Twin-Spar aluminium frame may be the only solution.

As a testimony of the Ducati success, Casey did after-all win on this prototype 3 years ago. It is certainly no one's fault that since then Honda and Yamaha have outdone Ducati in development and performance

As to Gobmeier I truly don't know what he will bring to the party that Ducati did not already have. The only outstanding performance from him that I recall is hugging Melandri's girl friend every time Melandri won.

Dave - Unregistered

January 17, 2013 8:00 AM

@Ausrossi,

some common sense for a change...keep it up:)

@Fraud,

Yeh, ducati got rid of rossi like honda got rid of stoner. Difference, rossi was still in demand by honda and yam while stoner had no options!!

Before you all tail spin into spasms, I am being sarcastic to highlight how stupid the "ducati got rid of rossi" comment is...totally expected from Fraud though...totally stupid.

On the actual article, they have 4 riders on 4 bikes plus test riders and German funds and organisation/structure so they will improve over time its more a question of can they catch the others?

herewego - Unregistered

January 17, 2013 8:29 AM

Ducati are a law unto themselves and deserve everything they get, or don't to be more realistic!! Someone else has said the same thing that I tend to go along with in that Ducati need to get a young rider that has always ridden a bike packed to the hilt with electronics and has no fear!! Grab one of the nutters that race in Moto 3 and stick him on and tell him to just open the throttle, give it welly and the bike will do the rest!!Most of the older guys first came into racing on bikes that had no electronic systems on them at all so in my opinion don't trust them in the same way.

wayne - Unregistered

January 17, 2013 8:50 AM

casey was undoubtedly brilliant on the duke but he fell off it as well and not just the once! It is not just Rossi who wants the bike to ride on rails, as I understand it that is called "a winning bike" see JL

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