MotoGP » Ducati won't ditch Desmodromic system


Ducati to stick with Desmodromic valve system for MotoGP engine.

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CRT - Unregistered

January 17, 2013 9:52 PM

@ Talent,

Honda's satelite teams were getting over night tires (Sete, Melandri etc). I would imagine if the teams could pay for it, they would get it.

The control tire, IMO, is a joke. When the rules changed in 2007 stating that the tire allocation had to be at the track on Thursday it eliminated the over night specials. For the first time, Bridgestone was on an even playing feild as Mich. BS could not provide the over night tires to most of the races, the plant was too far away. Mich being in France made it very easy to get the tires to the European rounds.

Ever wonder why Capirossi was a Motegi wizz? Bridgestone could get him the tire he needed overnight.

CRT - Unregistered

January 17, 2013 9:57 PM

The real problem came when Rossi complained about the Mich. tires. BS did not want to supply anymore riders, but what I believe was a backroom deal, Rossi gets his tires and BS wins the single supply without any competition. Funny how that happened huh?

Mich. could not get thier act together to produce a tire that worked across a wide range of operating temps. BS had the experience in this which is why the playing feild was leveled in 2007. Mich. was screwed because all the riders wanted to jump ship. Instead of allowing Mich to catch up to BS Dorna just enacted a single tire rule.

A tire supplier should work hand in hand with the manufacturer to produce the best results. It shouldn't be "here's your tire, figure it out", which is essentailly what has happened. Ask Honda how that worked for them.

TalentFan

January 17, 2013 10:00 PM

Well, I can't see what's wrong with it as an idea (though you can bet your left nut that Honda & Yamaha would strongly resist it) - why not relax the testing for new mfrs entering the series, and those not in the top 2?

What better way to aid mfrs to get up to speed than letting them have more of one of the biggest issues holding them back - the lack of time to develop the bike?

This one move would automatically be fair & self-regulate, as any mfr finishing outside the top 2 would qualify, so even Honda or Yam would stand to gain if they had a poor season for the following one.

Even better, it's nice and easy to implement, and there should be no valid reason for any mfr to object to it. Is it such a bad idea really?

CRT - Unregistered

January 17, 2013 10:00 PM

I don't recall any BS riders copmlaining when Mich. was bringing in over night specials. I don't recall anyone complaining that Mich. dominated the championship for (IIRC) 13 straight years.

One huge underdog kid on a bike no one else could ride to the limits wins a championship on BS tires and all the sudden people are complaining.

Funny how that works huh?

TalentFan

January 17, 2013 10:25 PM

Surely though, without some very strict controls, then opening up the tyre options is just replacing one problem that we are told adversely affects the racing with another?

And is tyres REALLY the fundamental problem, and the biggest one that renders no-one able to get near Honda & Yam? I'm really not sure that it is, but some people like Nakamoto seem keen to promote it that way - you have to wonder what his motives are.

Also there's nothing to say that removing the control tyres won't make the situation worse - remember Honda & Yamaha could get tailored tyres as well to further increase their existing advantage over the rest.

choo996 - Unregistered

January 17, 2013 10:39 PM

Keep the desmo...big mistake for ducati was not giving Scott Reading a shot. very hungry young rider who'd have done it for a strawberry shake & a ham sarny. smith yam v reading duc...I'd put my money on the one with personality and bigger balls !!!!

Let the engineers worry - Unregistered

January 18, 2013 12:37 AM

Some posters on here came up with good ideas concerning engine configurations, tyre preferences/compounds, chassis choices etc, but i for one would let riders share input and let the engineers worry themselves about the rest. That's what they get paid for after all. :D

chocolate starfish - Unregistered

January 18, 2013 1:51 AM

Gotta say talent fan gets my vote for dorna ceo. Yeah keep prototypes but make them mean something to the bikes we have on the road.

Things my bike will never have get rid of and I'm loving the top 2 teams get restricted testing whilst others get extra days. Like talent said if honda or yamaha fail they then get the chance. It encourages the harris's the roberts the ilmoors to enter.

By losing the the crap thats not available to my bike the benefits to the end user who all mfrs (the market) are after, increases

as to tires bring in all mfrs bring back full practice sessions and let them pick continental (whoever saturday night for race day.

People say that gp has always been this way and yes to extent i agree the biggest with the best have always won but long gone are the days when an elias , a roberts, a tamada, ukawa , barros, mccoy have messed with the front runners.

last year we should have had a bradl , bautista, crutchlow,dovi , abraham win but it wont happen

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