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Will Andrea Dovizioso, Nicky Hayden, Ben Spies or Andrea Iannone achieve something Valentino Rossi could not - win a MotoGP race for Ducati?

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shamarone

January 19, 2013 6:27 PM

re: "I have to say that anything learned from NSU's is No S*dding Use in todays electronically advanced pits and design offices."

a picture on the wall is what that is. gotta decorate HQ wit sumptin'.

Codger

January 19, 2013 7:02 PM

@jerginz.....Most of Stoner's 23 wins were in 2007, after that, each year, he got less and less. I'm not suggesting that the downward trend would continue if he stayed, but I'm worried that he would have been seriously hurt. He, himself, admitted that he had to over ride the bike to get the front to work... only so long that he could continue to do that.
He may well have won some in 2011, maybe even 2012 (if they listened to his requests for upgrade that is) but 2013? I don't think so.
Rossi complained that his requests didn't always reach the end of the chain, and that's Italian speaking with Italians! Audi said they are going to fix that. So Ducati might improve. We'll see.

Codger

January 19, 2013 7:14 PM

@ jerginz...sorry, I forgot to answer your question. Yes Casey would almost certainly have got more success than Rossi and Nicky, in 2011,2012. Sad to say he probably would have had more no-scores too. And the bike would still be a pig. It was great to watch him trying though, wasn't it?

andy from australia - Unregistered

January 19, 2013 10:13 PM

well boys and girls first stoner would of won last year on the ducati because he got the balls to give it all and the talent. history show he won every year on the ducati but no one else could get close.marco melandri motogp winner was always battling for 14 or 15 position that bike destroyed him in the premier class but stoner was flying along so stop saying that he had all the good parts and so on .the man to watch is ben spies he will do well if not be the best chance they have to win. ducati will fight for podiums this year in the dry as for nicky he has past his used by date about 4 years ago ..

Zedd

January 20, 2013 2:25 AM
Last Edited 678 days ago

Stoner was aided massively by the tyres that the team were using which suited the bike. Since Rossi joined that has not been the case and the bike has suffered for it. The fact of the matter is that had Stoner stayed with Ducati that he'd have found himself struggling more and more to produce podiums let alone wins.

Can Ducati produce another win? With the way that the rules are now- not a chance.

True Fan - Unregistered

January 20, 2013 4:56 AM

They need to de-Yamify the Ducaha.
They need to forget the Rossi misadventure - after all, it was 80% rider, 20% bike. Same applies to the Stoner success (he won't be back on a red bike).
They need Bridgestone tyres that suit the Ducati's power delivery profile and bike geometry.
Beyond that, it's up to this year's riders.

Unlikely this year.

Dr.Who - Unregistered

January 20, 2013 6:30 AM

For christ sake, stop saying that Stoner would have won riding 12's Ducati we will never know that. Also stop saying that Ben will be the best there are too much people who think they know it all. If Ben will be good we will all know that at the end of 2013, it's too early to say.
In '12 he had a good bike and was the one with a ton of problems and bad luck in '13 he's moving to an already crappy bike.
Audi's aim is to ride for podium finishes they aren't even saying we are going to ride for the win. This is because Audi/Ducati need to sort things out before they can perform. Podium finishes is in my opinion the most positive thing Ducati could say at this moment and will probably also be the luckiest thing that could happen. We all thought Rossi could turn the Duc into a winning machine, Preziosi didn't left because he was offered a new role within Ducati that he wanted. Ducati didn't listen to Stoner and they didn't listen to all of what Rossi wanted.

TalentFan

January 20, 2013 10:10 AM

As Dr Who says, its pure speculation that CS would win on the current Ducati. There's enough to suggest he'd have been a lot stronger on it than VR though perhaps.

There seems little doubt that CS rode the Duke at 100% though, yet his win ratio fell yr-on-yr. That indicates Ducati's bike falling behind HRC/Yam (as Stoner's talent and effort were clearly off the charts).

Lets' say the Jap Factory bikes are developed to 99% currently, with Ducati at let's say 90%. At this level, that's MASSIVE. With restricted testing & opponents with a virtually perfect bike, that gap cannot be bridged IMO, not even by a mercurial Stoner - not over a season, certainly.

TalentFan

January 20, 2013 10:19 AM

If MotoGP sticks with the combination of...
A) Testing restrictions for ALL teams (i.e. do not relax this restriction for teams outside the top 2 in the WC, to give Ducati and any new/returning Mfrs the chance to close the development gulf)
B) Single Tyre supplier (which means tyres can't be adapted to overcome set-up deficiencies and gain competitive pace that way)

... then HRC/Yam have the game all to themselves, and that CANNOT change. The logical extension of that is that all do a 'Suzuki' & leave HRC/Yam to it.

IMO, if Dorna don't go 100% CRT, or adapt the rules to improve the chances for other Mfr's to compete, then MotoGP is up Sh!t Creek, and fast.

Logically Ducati cannot do anything but suffer with the Sattellite bikes again in 2013.

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