MotoGP » CRT MotoGP class 'a big success'


"If any of the top MotoGP riders would use a CRT, I don't know how big the difference would be" - Carmelo Ezpeleta.

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TalentFan

January 23, 2013 6:37 PM

Sorry, but seems many fans are either can't see the bigger picture, are plain thick, or are steeped in Factory issue bull***t.
If CRT isn't seen as a success for what it has achieved, it'll be cos MotoGP fans collectively are too short-sighted or dense to see it.

Ezpeleta has proved with CRT that a low-cost prototype racing motorcycle can be plenty fast enough and entertaining enough to offer quality racing - that is its success IMO.

Fools just look at the fact that the HRC /Yams clear off & call them slow simply cos a CRT without a JL or DP onboard can't lap as fast. Seems fans are too dumb to realise that, with a bit of development, suitable rules and no handful of Full factory and 'not allowed to win' satellite bikes there, a grid full of CRT's with top pilots would provide a proper, competitive, exciting racing spectacle.

Remember - prototype didn't exist as a term in GP till recently, (anyway CRT's are 'prototype' racing bikes) & CRT (looked at properly) definitely has the pote

prof-x - Unregistered

January 23, 2013 6:55 PM

@RSMick,

ask yourself this question, if you feel like being real honest with yourself RSMick. How many millions of dollars have Honda and Ducati wasted chasing the tire formula since 2009. The answer is quite a lot.

How many millions of dollars has Bridgestone saved Yamaha keeping Ducati and Honda away from them in 2009, first half of 2010 and 2012. It costs more to develop a bike to a certain specification then it does to use already existing tires and actually have a shot at winning races.

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prof-x - Unregistered

January 23, 2013 6:57 PM


A single control tire only works for one bike, it always will work best for one bike. If you like diversity, competition and saving money you will appreciate many different tire make's / specifications that open doors for different bikes. If you like monopolies, control and predictable results (Rossi finishing in front of Stoner) than you go with a single control tire that is 'specd' according to 'whomever' it seems is behind the curtain making sure MotoGP is profitable.

Many different tires give manufacturers relief in having to completely overhaul and redesign their bikes (see Ducati) If you cant see that RSMick than I fear you have been to 'close' for too long to have any real objective perspective.

Now that Casey is gone, Dorna dont have to worry about an outsider having too much 'power' to dictate who wins and loses, its as simple as that, and now they can relax their rules and allow some better competition. With riders that fit their bill.

TalentFan

January 23, 2013 7:31 PM

The modern MotoGP anyway is a development blind alley, and NO USE really as a development tool for Mfrs, EXCEPT in MotoGP. If they say that it is, it has to be a big fat lie IMO.

Why do I say this?
1. Pneumatic Valves (no use anywhere else)
2. Very High rpm motors (ditto)
3. Carbon Brakes (ditto)
4. Electronic systems that adjust for a specific lap at maximum speed (within the fuel limit - DITTO)

I'm sure there are more examples. All these things have in common is the fact that away from the track they have no commercial & practical application on a motorcycle.

So, why don't the Mfr's agree to ban them as they serve no purpose? The only answer can be because by retaining them HRC /Yam hold unassailable advantages with their resources that they want to keep. Without them, they KNOW a CRT could compete, and take away their headlines.

RSMick

January 23, 2013 8:47 PM
Last Edited 535 days ago

Profx - Don't fear really don't, the only thing I have to ask myself is why bother?
why are you convinced that the Bridgestone is made for the Yamaha, since they changed the construction who won more races?
Although by looking at the writing English is probably your second language, which hats off to you for learning a second language, I will ask again when under none control tyre was the closer than it is now, when was the racing ever closer than it is now? Maybe 2001. There has always been a preferred tyre manufacturer, right back to when Goodyear was in there, Michelin were and won every title between 1991 and 2006 as far as I remember. No other manufacturer won a race between 1995 Crafer and 2004 Tamada on Bridgestone.

mike hunt - Unregistered

January 24, 2013 11:40 AM

And he's messing with WSB as well. European SS1000 is a brillant series and Ezpeleta is going to kick it into touch along with ESS600.

The next thing you know the ticket price will rise and you'll be paying more money on the gate to see less racing!

Grendlehop

January 24, 2013 1:18 PM
Last Edited 534 days ago

How about this, no engine allocations on CRT bikes! There's no real development going on there that the engine manufacturers are receiving. If CRTs weren't tuned with so much longevity in mind, they'd prob give the engine allocated/hobbled prototypes a serious run. What's the harm? Prototypes will still have the latest tech & we'd have some serious competition.

TalentFan

January 26, 2013 9:16 AM

Let's face it - under the current MotoGP rules, HRC & Yam Factory's have it all sewn up. They've won, and cannot be beaten.

That accepted, then we can declare them the winners, and then reset and start a new game, with new rules from scratch. Rules that reset the playing field to level and zero for any and all teams taking part.

I think this was what Ezpeleta was demonstrating when the CRT class was born, and while far from perfect (as the ART bikes stretched the rules somewhat, but Ezpeleta badly needed the entries so they got away with it) CRT successed in demonstrating that a new direction with less tech and costs could work very well indeed.

CRT means the factories would not want to play this new game IMO. But I think that actually MotoGP racing would be all the richer for that.

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