MotoGP » Lorenzo: Four favourites for MotoGP 2013


“The four of us are the favourites, but there can always be surprises and so I don't like to make predictions” – Jorge Lorenzo.

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herewego - Unregistered

January 24, 2013 8:24 AM

The Ducati - the bike Valentino Rossi couldn't ride!! What people should say is - the bike Valentio Rossi wasn't prepared to try to ride!!!! The bike was/is a death trap and it seems only Casey Stoner was desperate enough to risk his life getting it to the front! Casey Stoner was still going through the process of proving himself when he rode for Ducati - remember, he was their 4th choice rider for 2007, so he hadn't been very impressive! Casey had to give it everything and couldn't afford not to push the bike and himself into the ground! Valentino has a more sensible and experienced head on his shoulders and knew better - it wasn't worth it! Casey has gone, Valentino lives on!!!!

TalentFan

January 24, 2013 10:00 AM

@ Hahahaha "Ive never seen people cry so much about 'Oooohhh noo its too like wrestling' or 'It's a drama' WHO CARES?" "If it bothers you so much then turn the TV on when the race starts and off when it finishes, don't attend message boards or read rider interviews."

Who cares? Fans of the SPORT care. And MotoGP is losing popularity and standing due to this farcical nonsense. Which means that people like you happy to watch a manufactured soap-opera display might well not get to watch it either when no sponsors or teams (cept HRC /Yam)want in, & no TV networks wants to buy it.

If you don't have the mental capacity and faculties to understand why its important for ALL to understand & get behind reviving MotoGP as a premier RACING series, & your only contribution is to post drivel like your post having a pop, then maybe EastEnders or WWF Wresting should be what you watch?

TalentFan

January 24, 2013 10:07 AM

Look - even F1 has seen the light, and is encouraging initiatives to improve the racing. Today there is a story where Pirelli are introducing new tyres, with the emphasis not on faster, or grippier, or longevity, but on developing characertistics to make the job harder for the teams to encourage more overtaking.

Never mind for a minute WHAT has been done and whether or not you agree that this specific thing is what you agree with.... look at the bigger picture and the PHILOSOPHY and CULTURE being driven to the fire at F1, which is to focus on trying to improve the competiveness and the quality of racing as the goal.

I never thought I'd say this, but MotoGP now needs to look at F1 as a model for how they ought to be thinking - get the Racing right, and the Fans and sponsors, and TV will follow. Pander to the Factory's and we get the mess we have now and a Series in crisis.

Hahahaha - Unregistered

January 24, 2013 3:45 PM

@Talentfan (Talk about choosing a name to try and wind people up)

I'm not trying to be nasty, what I'm saying is that rivalry on and off the track does not preclude top level racing. The reason that IMO that viewing time is down is not because of inter rider rivalries (Lets be honest there haven't been any in the past few years... Sure the fans are squabbling like children in the forums but the riders themselves are all for the most part keeping it respectful and professional) I believe its because of a lack of close racing and such a disparity between the bikes. Lets be honest you'll be extremely lucky to win on a satellite and a miracle to win on CRT.

If they keep the sport a no holds barred technological war the only winner will really be Honda and maybe Yam.
I'm not suggesting set up the races or anything like that, if you look at the two stroke era the top riders always won but there was close racing throughout, it just made for a better series.
People seem to think that they

Hahahaha - Unregistered

January 24, 2013 3:45 PM

are handicapping the machines to benefit certain riders... It seems illogical to me, they are all working with the same equipment so the creme should always rise to the top.

Sorry for being long winded, but IMO these guys are racing each other at the top level, if they didn't have some kind of rivalry it would be strange to me, when it comes down to it, its all settled on the track. If it was set up Valentino would have been winning this last year.

CRT - Unregistered

January 24, 2013 4:01 PM

@ If they keep the sport a no holds barred technological war the only winner will really be Honda and maybe Yam.
Posted by Hahahaha

Interesting because when it was a "no holds bar" era there were multiple winners and multiple people standing on the podium, including satelite hondas, yamahas, ducatis and Suzuki.

The spec tire is killing the teams and the sport. It killed Ducati, and has killed any chance of a satelite team winning the race. If BS hadn't messed with the tires mid season, it very well could have been a different championship. The changed forced a manufacturer to go the drawing board and spend a ton more money to develop a chasis that worked with the new tires. I'm willing to bet it would have been cheaper to develop a tire around the bike than the other way around.

Open the tire wars, allow the teams to develop a tire to suit the bike, and you will have a nice little shake up in the finishing order.

TalentFan

January 24, 2013 4:45 PM

@ Hahahaha You actually made many solid points in your last post, many of which I have said also.
@ CRT When its was 'no holds barred' was a different era and the bikes were't at the level they are now - where maybe 0.05% is the best a factory bike could hope to improve.
The game has moved to one of very, very small returns which need massive investment. Only HRC & Yam can do that.
The rules need to level up the field before there's no field LEFT. We cannot level them UP, as there isn't the money in the economy and HRC /Yam have ALL the advantages already.
So the rules have to change toward more affordable & less tech (which has the happy benefits of improving the competitiveness of the teams, & attracting more teams & sponsors. It is the ONLY direction feasible, & inevitable IMO or MotoGP dies.
I don't think our standpoints are all that different, just our ideas on possible solutions.

TalentFan

January 24, 2013 4:57 PM

@ Hahahaha Just to clear it up, my username was not chosen as any kind of wind-up.
In fact I chose it to indicate what it says, that I appreciate racing Talent.

In other words, I am not one of these sycophantic, hero-worshipping children who treat one rider as a God, and any other rider (esp. good ones) with vitriol and contempt.

There are some great posts and intelligent, thought-provoking & informative things written here sometimes - you just have to sort through a lot of debris to see them.

CRT - Unregistered

January 24, 2013 5:20 PM

@ TalentFan,

If you don't think the factories were dumping as much money into then as they are now (bar inflation) you're dreaming.

The only thing that has changed is where the focus of that money is spent. The satelite teams of old could compete because they could get tires to match the style of the rider. Hell, Rossi was competitive in 04 becuase Mich helped bail them out of set up issues with over night tires. Look what a solid set of tires could do for Toni Elias.

The teams are wasting too much money trying to change the bike to match the tires, be it through use of electonics or frame and powerplant adjustments. How much money do you think Kawi spent developing the bike to suit the Pirelli tires in WSBK?

Do you think it would be cheaper for Gresini Honda to pay for better tires or a brand new frame from HRC?

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