MotoGP » Pedrosa has 'big chance' of 2013 MotoGP title

"Dani is still improving as a rider. We believe we can continue from last year's results and we believe we have a big chance to win the championship this year" - Shuhei Nakamoto, HRC.

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99 Crystal Ball. - Unregistered

January 26, 2013 2:29 PM

As i said,if the advantage was so massive,why didnt they win the championship?
Obviously the advantage is not as massive as some seem to think it is or Honda would have had it in the bag.

bjr - Unregistered

January 26, 2013 10:53 PM

Time to kick the maths up to a primary school level folks.

We're talking seconds of acceleration, not seconds of lap time. If the Honda can gearchange in 8ms and the Yamaha in 40ms (or whatever it was) then you have roughly 30ms of coasting per shift. What does that work out to???

Assume they're accelerating at about 1g (10m/s/s) then you be losing 1km/hr per shift against your rival. No more than about 3-4km/hr by the end of a very long straight.

The difference in shift time isn't where the advantage lies...

bjr - Unregistered

January 27, 2013 1:42 AM

A 2nd point to make is that these are not cars, but motorcycles. They are "wheelie" limited in the lower gears whereby a seamless shift can hold the front wheel a nice inch or two above the road allowing maximum forward acceleration.

With a "seamed shift" (for want of a better term) a burst of power to get the already lifted front rising prior to the shift, then catching it again after the shift see's no net loss in acceleration.

It's a bit like the old juggling balls question, where the average downward force of the man is his weight plus the weight of the balls he's juggling, even if he's only holding them for a fraction of a second at a time..

prof-x - Unregistered

January 28, 2013 4:29 PM

be 'like water' Dani.

I can only think of one weakness for Dani that is really outstanding, and if he can tackle that he will be very hard to beat.

prof-x - Unregistered

January 28, 2013 4:34 PM

btw, Honda have the best bike, by far. BY FAR.

MUCH better on the brakes leading in to the corner, MUCH better right out of the corners, about equal down the straight, apex is probably the weakest given the tires and the weight distribution I would surmise.

Honda would have owned 2012 had Yamaha not had a serious tire advantage out of the gates. Even at the end of the year with the rear wheel bobbing around the corners (less traction) and the front jumping up and down (less stability) that bike and Dani still kicked Lorenzo's a**.

I cant imagine how much of an a** kicking Marquez will do to Yamaha after Bridgestone get the go ahead to make tires for them. It will be pretty gruesome.


January 29, 2013 6:14 PM

I'm not quite buying into prof-x's tyre conspiracy theory, but it DOES look like HRC have spent a LOT of money and bought their way to having an edge over Factory Yamaha.
If so, then it looks like 2013 may be the best chance DP has of a WC. No Stoner in 2013, & a bike that has been optimised to get every last thousandth out of it.

If HRC is ahead, then coming off the back of a great 2012, then DP would be favourite with me for the WC.

prof-x - Unregistered

January 30, 2013 12:34 AM

any rider that gets away with running people over will get the tires their way. The political will is written all over the wall, and Dorna and Repsol want Marquez as the next Rossi, the way the commentators drive the narratives and the way that kid gets to walk all over people is ridiculous and simply overt.

You dont need 'hidden' conspiracies only people picking up a paycheck to do whats in the 'good' of the show. People do what they are told, especially if they get a bunch of money for not that much effort.

The conspiracy is out in the open. Yamaha have benefited from the switch to the control tire ever since 2008/2009. Jorge's raw pace, had all to do with the tires suiting that bike, that team's domination had all to do with the tires fitting their platform. Both times Honda caught up, both times Honda destroyed the Yamaha.

prof-x - Unregistered

January 30, 2013 12:37 AM

When the tire engineers build a tire, they know what specification they are building it for, they understand where that potential will be, and they also have quite a lot of data collected from the different teams.

Isnt it kind of obvious that when only one make of bike clearly benefits from a tire change (2008/2009/2012) a change that is both engineered and politically willed, that there is something going on???

The real loser is Ducati, who'se balance is too far out to use those particular spec of tire. If Ducati were given the 2008/2007 tires they would probably be able to fight for wins. Tires are a big big part of the combination, just ask Michael Schumacher & Ferrari.

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