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Julian Simon disagrees with Casey Stoner's recent comments on MotoGP.

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bikenut

February 02, 2013 10:00 AM
Last Edited 536 days ago

Like it or not , my two favourite sports, motorcycle racing and boxing are both quite dangerous.

But that's not really why I or most people watch them, we normally watch sports we are personally connected to, I used to race motorcycles and my grandfather was a boxer.

I find it a little sickening when anyone gets hurt in either sport but at the same time I guess it is the danger that adds to the interest and is the reason why not many people can be successful in them.

It's easy to understand why the successful riders get annoyed at reckless riders, the sport is dangerous enough already.

prof-x - Unregistered

February 02, 2013 10:02 AM

@Codger, you ever think the reason why people get Casey wrong is because they have no idea what they are talking about?

Perhaps Casey's wife was on his scooter with him, something I have seen a lot in 'replays'

& no, Simoncelli's tire gripped because he was holding his front end up, if he had let it slide out he would have kept going outwards. & if he wanted to he could have steered left to make the front fall out. You ever ride a moto?

Julian's a good rider, but his comments were clearly out of context/disregard, as are yours.

prof-x - Unregistered

February 02, 2013 10:07 AM

but thats not to say Simo had a death wish, just made a bad call that bit him, a 'true' fighter. I believe he also made a similar mistake at one of the races right before Sepang, when he was facing off against two other riders, but he was way outside the line and not in the middle of a straight. Been a while though so I dont remember if he 'hooked' it, but I know he made a very similar error.

Sometimes you gotta know when to 'fold em.' Personally I think Casey comes out a net winner in MotoGP, with what he and his family have invested and their return. No sense in 'degrading' yourself if you dont have to.

Dr GP - Unregistered

February 02, 2013 10:30 AM

@ Rossi was good
Sad that you have to turn it into a Rossi vs Stoner thread again and use it as an opportunity to insult Rossi fans. He was not, as you say, hammered by Stoner and Lorenzo. They beat him sometimes, he beat them sometimes.
Back on topic many of the negative reactions to Stoner's comments have nothing to do with Rossi. My beaf with Stoner is more that he demands and expects a level of respect from all involved in MotoGP that I and many others just do not feel he has shown to them. As I said before the MotoGP circus has earnt him enough money to retire at 27. We all have directors or clients at work that we don't particularly like or feel treat us right, but we treat them with respect and are polite to them because at the end of the day they pay our wages and that's what puts food on the table for us and our families.

TrueFan

February 02, 2013 11:18 AM

@Dr GP I don't think he cares. The difference between him and the situation you describe "at work", is that his job was riding a motorcycle fast, and he was the best in the business. You may be more redily replaceable, and need the job, so you play the game and pretend to like people that you clearly dislike. Stoner doesn't need to do that. Firstly, they were prepared to give him much more money. But he had already achieved what he wanted. No doubt he could have stayed on, because he seemed to like riding very fast bikes, but he didn't think it was worth it.

Julian Simon is more or less in your situation. No one is offering him 15,000,000 for a year to ride their bike. Maybe he isn't good enough.

Bigsy - Unregistered

February 02, 2013 11:46 AM

It doesn't matter if you're at the top of your game or the bottom of the pile, regardless of what you do, you treat others with good grace and respect and you will get it back in return. This will not always be the case, granted, but if you give it out, you can safely say that you DESERVE it back.

That's something Casey never seemed to understand and his petulant attitude and comments got him in the position he is in. People will always say "he's the only one to speak his mind", but Colin Edwards always does the same with a smile on his face, good humour and a healthy dose of self deprecation. Casey could do himself a lot of favours and take note. But then that's his decision to make.

Claes

February 02, 2013 12:06 PM

Hi
Stoner is not afraid of taking risks we know that, he was winning on a Ducati which are all about riding above the limit equals risk. He was just bothered with that the circus and the audience seems to want this kind of racing, look at this web here no one of the Rossi fanclub thought it was wrong of Rossi to block pass Sete or use Stoner as a not to fall support at Laguna, lots thought that the Directores was to harch on Marco when he was riding tough. This is what he was talking about you guys want this, but do not understand that it is riskful, the audience want argie bargi on the track, but this is not Rugby boys they are doing 200 plus and they should not bump in to eachother, only people where ambition outweight talent do that:)
Cheers Claes

samas

February 02, 2013 12:08 PM

@TrueFan.
Good post mate It's like the old rolling stones song you can't always get what you want but you get what you need.
Casey's got what he needs a loving family and most likely a few good friends not a flock of foolish geep(the cross between a sheep and a goat)hanging on his every word.
I guess there are a lot of people who can't have enough money.

prof-x - Unregistered

February 02, 2013 1:01 PM

The irony is some people believe being lied to is being respected.

Casey was good enough to enlighten fans who appreciate his contribution. The people who appreciate living in denial will keep slating Stoner, saying hes disrespectful, bla bla bla, but guess what, hes honest, so honest that he pisses the liars off.

Nobody is perfect, but at least Casey was good enough to be himself, and in today's world where almost everything you see on TV is a complete fabrication and a lie, Casey was good enough to give the fans something REAL. THANK YOU CASEY STONER, you are a light in the dark. A real star, but unfortunately you are only visible during the day. Something Vale wishes he were. (irony)

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