MotoGP » Dovizioso: We knew it would be difficult


'We still have to decide which parts we can bring to the second test. Unfortunately, we need time to try something big' - Andrea Dovizioso

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dacron

February 08, 2013 1:33 AM

@Dave.
i been on twitter last 4 days mate , better convo's with better people.
you keep saying i bagged vale and said he is over but in reality i never have.
yes its true a couple of the boys ran consistently with 2.1s , some others not so consistently.
i remember a guy last years consistently in the 2.0 and 1.59s.

Dave - Unregistered

February 08, 2013 1:32 AM

@ Dacron,

You have a point, the 07 tyre along with the bike were a big reason for ducatis success, even capa was competitive and won a race in 07.

I still think start with the 07 not 10 desmo though, the 10 was crap, even you couldnt rationally disagree with that given the last two years (and 4 days).

dacron

February 08, 2013 1:27 AM

@Dave.
correction , go back to the tires from 2007.
the ducati can only work with with a small range of tire specs , even then it has to be ridden a certain way to stay fast all race long.
once bstone moved development from ducati to yamaha in 08 the ducati's suffering began .

Dave - Unregistered

February 08, 2013 1:24 AM

Dacs, good to see you back, I thought you had left us as I havent seen many posts from you the last 4 days...the biggest days for 2013 GP fodder.

Anyway, regarding your post, the last 2 years when rossi fans post exactly the same logic with rossi stats, you and other would say "its history, move on, hes nothing now".

Well, rossi moved on and is .1 off the RWC and .4 off another alien. To put it into perspective, the top 4 all ran concistantly in the 2.01s.

Your post refers to old history...move on

Dibbs - Unregistered

February 08, 2013 1:23 AM

Sad to see the Ducati breaking yet another good rider. Finally more people seem to be agreeing that the Ducati is genuinely a bad bike. It's looked that way for too many years with too many riders for it to be anything but this. Sure a rapid churn of riders has not aided development but plenty have had two year sentences and not made anything of it! Personally I don't buy the Stoner would win on this and everyone else is rubbish argument. This Ducati and those over the last few years are totally different from the bike Stoner was winning on. That's the basis of development or in Ducati's case regression! Would those who use the Stoner argument say that Jenson Button would have won lots of races in last years Merc? It was the same car as the Brawn he won the title with....NOT!

Dave - Unregistered

February 08, 2013 1:20 AM

"Something is wrong yes, my 2 cents? go back to the way the bike was when stoner left."

Correction...back to the bike he originally got in 2007.

dacron

February 08, 2013 1:16 AM

audi will not be injecting mass cash into the ducati racing project as most people seem to think , they have a huge manufacturing wealth that ducati will be able to use to create parts faster.
@ jjjjime , no rider develops bikes mate they ride them ,saying stoner did nothing with it is totally ridiculous in terms of riding though.
riders are paid to ride , and personally i think stoner did a great job at riding the two versions he was given to ride , he was the first to get on a carbon fiber designed ducati and ride it in races , he took it to 8 wins and many podiums , fastest laps and pole positions , now that i think is something.

tea - Unregistered

February 08, 2013 1:09 AM

Like most people I Like Dovi a lot. I however feel zero sympathy for his situation. His insistance on getting a "factory ride" no matter what will destroy his career. Crutchlow is lucky Dovi got the ride as he'd be suffering a similar fate. Did he honestly think after every rider apart from Stoner has failed miserably on the Ducati (even Stoner was getting worse every year) he would succeed where everyone else has failed?

He made his bed and now he has to lie in it. I wish him good luck though...

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